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Atomkraft årsag til huller i ozonlaget?
Fra : Rado


Dato : 07-03-08 00:06



Walter Russell - af mange regnet for den mest geniale videnskabsmand i
moderne tid - forudsagde allerede i 1954 at udnyttelsen af atomkraften
ville forårsage ødelæggelse af plantens ilt.


AN EARLY WARNING

August, 1954. "It will not take many years to utterly destroy the...
encircling protective walls which surround this planet and protect the
earth from burning up by the sun's hot rays," Walter and Lao Russell,
Newsletter of the University of Science and Philosophy.

April 6, 1989. "Scientists reported yesterday that for the first time
they have detected an increase in "biologically relevant" levels of
ultraviolet radiation reaching the ground as a result of the ozone
hole over the Antarctica. This is the first indication that the
depletion of ozone... is beginning to cause the potentially harmful
effect that has long been predicted."
(Washington Post)

-------

(udpluk - hele teksten kan læses her:)
http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum/walter-russell/683-article-macrobiotic-genius-walter-russell.html
eller
http://tinyurl.com/37byje


By John David Mann

The "Ozone War," as it came to be called, was principally responsible
for ushering in a new era of planetary policy. Fifteen years later,
the ponderous gears of human response are finally grinding into
action. Aimed at coping with the infamous "ozone hole", a spate of
local and global policy-making is pushing its way forward in an
unprecedented atmosphere of international cooperation.
   
Rep. Al Gore (D-TN), the seasoned environmental advocate who helped
uncover Love Canal and has stalked the Greenhouse effect for years,
recently introduced legislation to ban production of CFCs (the
chemical generally thought responsible for the ozone crisis) within 5
years. As Gore observed this February: "The political sentiment is
changing very rapidly... I think people are mad about this and ready
for dramatic action."

But are they the right actions? Not according to Walter Russell, who
predicted the ozone dilemma 35 years ago -- a full 20 years before the
Rowland/Molina research made headlines -- and ascribed it to an
entirely different cause. If Russell's views were correct, then the
chlorine chemistry of CFCs is not the prime culprit, and no one is
looking in the one direction that matters most. In fact, according to
Russell, there is one overarching solution to the atmospheric
emergency: stop making nuclear stockpiles -- immediately.

The year is 1954. Sherwood Rowland's ozone prognosis is two decades in
the future; Three Mile Island is a quarter century still to come. To
most of us, the "Greenhouse effect" connotes little more than a better
way to grow tomatoes. The word "ecology" scarcely exists in the
mainstream lexicon........Three years later the Russells publish a
book, Atomic Suicide?, whose principle message is that the development
of the nuclear weaponry and industry, if allowed to continue, will
eventually destroy the planet's oxygen: "The element of surprise which
could delay the discovery of the great danger, and thus allow more
plutonium piles to come into existence, is the fact that scientists
are looking near the ground for fallout dangers and other radioactive
menaces. The greatest radioactive dangers are accumulating from eight
to twelve miles up [in the stratosphere]. The upper atmosphere is
already charged with death-dealing radioactivity, for which it not yet
sent us its bill. It is slowly coming, however, and we will have to
pay for it for another century, even if atomic energy plants ceased
today." (Atomic Suicide?, page 18.) Later in the book, they predict
that the oxygen-destroying effects of radiation would not be noticed
"until the late seventies."

It was an uncannily accurate forecast: ozone depletion was first
noticed over the Antarctic in 1982 -- and scientists have since
concluded that it first appeared in 1979. But then, as now, the
Russells' voice received little notice.......

So, then, what would happen? In Russell's estimation, the lighter
pressures of the stratosphere would retain the majority of radioactive
fallout, and would be the first region that would reveal the wholesale
destruction of oxygen. That's oxygen, not just ozone: if played
through to the end, the last act of the nuclear drama would see the
disappearance of all oxygen on the planet, whether as ozone, water or
the O2 we breathe. In this context, the ozone hole, as serious as it
is in its own right, emerges as an early warning sign..........

As the centerpiece of this effort, Dr. [Timothy] Binder is
coordinating a thorough scientific effort to test, verify and document
radioactivity's role in ozone depletion. Combining an exhaustive
review of existing literature with new laboratory experimentation, the
project owes its impetus in part to Binder's frustrated efforts to
obtain accurate data from past observations.

Last year, to explore mainstream views on the possible radiation-ozone
connection, Binder visited the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) in Boulder, Colorado, where he spoke with NOAA
researcher George Mount. He was told, "Oh, yes, we know that radiation
destroys ozone, but we don't consider it significant." Pressing
further, Binder learned of an earlier "insignificant" government
finding: "during the bomb tests in the 60s [before the ban on
atmospheric testing drove the detonations underground] they found a 2
percent reduction in ozone." Given the current alarm over a global
reduction of 1.7 to 3 percent, 2 percent would certainly seem to us to
be "significant." Binder was told that a review of this data was in
process; when he later tried to obtain this information in print, he
received reports with figures that contradicted Mount's statements.

Commenting on his investigations, Binder offered this conclusion: "As
the government is now reviewing the old data on the 60s' testing, it
sounds like they are reconsidering the nuclear connection to ozone
destruction, but don't want to tell [us] about it yet.....



--
Rado

Protester imod EUs intelligent design resolution:
http://www.petitiononline.com/id108/petition.html

 
 
Carsten Svaneborg (07-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten Svaneborg


Dato : 07-03-08 01:28

Rado wrote:
> ..

Før du sender sådan en gang crackpot spam til dk.videnskab så
lær venligst lidt om 1) naturvidenskab, 2) rationel logik og
3) kildekritik.

Fut dk.livssyn

--
Mvh. Carsten Svaneborg
http://gauss.ffii.org softwarepatent database

Per A. Hansen (07-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Per A. Hansen


Dato : 07-03-08 09:59


"Rado" <rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:evo0t3932vmh75pvlvt87of909d1gps87m@4ax.com...
>
>
> Walter Russell - af mange regnet for den mest geniale videnskabsmand i
> moderne tid - forudsagde allerede i 1954 at udnyttelsen af atomkraften
> ville forårsage ødelæggelse af plantens ilt.

Manden er en charlatan, hvilket vel bedst kan illustreres med de
aktuelle data for ilt i atmosfæren.


--

Med venlig hilsen
Per A. Hansen



Rado (07-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Rado


Dato : 07-03-08 14:20

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:58:42 +0100, "Per A. Hansen"
<xper.hansen@get2net.dk> wrote:

>
>"Rado" <rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:evo0t3932vmh75pvlvt87of909d1gps87m@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Walter Russell - af mange regnet for den mest geniale videnskabsmand i
>> moderne tid - forudsagde allerede i 1954 at udnyttelsen af atomkraften
>> ville forårsage ødelæggelse af plantens ilt.
>
>Manden er en charlatan, hvilket vel bedst kan illustreres med de
>aktuelle data for ilt i atmosfæren.

Han er bestemt ingen charlatan. Det mente en af hans stærkeste
kritikere i sin tid også, men han skiftede senere mening efter at have
sat sig ind i hans ideer:

"I now wish to modify my statements and criticisms, for, since writing
that letter, my viewpoint has somewhat changed...
"What I considered to be the overnight inspiration of a 'crank' might
be, instead, the result of an intelligent and prolonged study of
Nature.
"I am immensely intrigued by Russell's 'two-way' principle, for it
gives this universe of motion a meaning to me that it did not have
before. In fact, we know very little of the why of anything...
"Why did not some scientist think of this instead of waiting 300 years
for an artist to tell us about it?... I invite the collaboration and
criticism of my fellow scientists at large to join me in this... If
Russell is right, and he surely thinks he is, his claim that science
needs 'a major surgical operation' is justifiable..."
-- Dr. John E. Jackson, The New York Times, November 9,
1930.

Der var faktisk en hel del anerkendte forskere der støttede hans ideer
i sin tid, især Tesla, der dog rådede Russell til at låse sin viden
ned i en kiste i Smithsonian Institute med besked om at den først
måtte åbnes efter 1000 år, for han mente ikke menneskeheden var parat
til den endnu. Russell var også lige ved at gøre det, men ombestemte
sig alligevel og gav sin viden videre. Han blev iøvrigt tildelt en
doktorgrad i videnskab, plus han var president for Society of Science
and Arts i 7 år.

Men enhver kan jo tage fejl, og om han har gjort det her skal jeg ikke
kunne sige. Men tankevækkende er det at han forudsiger at der vil
komme huller i atmosfærens beskyttelseslag, 35 år før det rent
faktisk sker.

Jeg selv studeret Russells ideer gennem nogle år, plus at jeg før da
har stiftet bekendtskab med lignende ideer, bl.a. fra Viktor
Schauberger. Og jeg er ganske overbevist om at de har fat i den
rigtige ende. Russell og hans lige havde en viden om en masse ting som
naturvidenskaben endnu ikke kender noget til, eller ikke har forstået
at fortolke korrekt. Og de demonstrede det utvetydigt gennem
forskellige projekter og eksperimenter, hvoraf nogle er blevet
reproduceret af forskere inden for de senere år. F.ex. omdannelse af
grundstoffer til andre grundstoffer alene gennem specielt
strukturerede magnetfelter, eller gennem plasmakemiske processer i et
almindeligt vacuumrør med blot nogle få watt energi. Noget der
overhovedet ikke lader sig gøre ud fra de almindelige herskende
teorier inden for naturvidenskaben. Folk med en sådan viden bør man
lytte til - de kan også tage fejl, men meget ofte har de ret.



--
Rado

Protester imod EUs intelligent design resolution:
http://www.petitiononline.com/id108/petition.html

Per A. Hansen (09-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Per A. Hansen


Dato : 09-03-08 21:10


"Rado" <rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:0ee2t35dd3sr5hkgu1vp5n7i0g1e77t053@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:58:42 +0100, "Per A. Hansen"
> <xper.hansen@get2net.dk> wrote:
>

> Han er bestemt ingen charlatan. Det mente en af hans stærkeste
> kritikere i sin tid også, men han skiftede senere mening efter at have
> sat sig ind i hans ideer:

Jo - så afgjort.
Jeg vil sætte ham i bås med Nostradamus og alkymister.

--

Med venlig hilsen
Per A. Hansen



Rado (16-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Rado


Dato : 16-03-08 22:26

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:10:21 +0100, "Per A. Hansen"
<xper.hansen@get2net.dk> wrote:

>
>"Rado" <rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:0ee2t35dd3sr5hkgu1vp5n7i0g1e77t053@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:58:42 +0100, "Per A. Hansen"
>> <xper.hansen@get2net.dk> wrote:
>>
>
>> Han er bestemt ingen charlatan. Det mente en af hans stærkeste
>> kritikere i sin tid også, men han skiftede senere mening efter at have
>> sat sig ind i hans ideer:
>
>Jo - så afgjort.
>Jeg vil sætte ham i bås med Nostradamus og alkymister.

Alkymisterne havde skam ret - det er absolut muligt at lave
grundstoffer om til andre gundstoffer på simple måder. Det er blevet
demonstreret flere gange i nyere tid. Metoderne er bare forholdvis
ukendte inden for mainstream videnskaben, sikkert fordi de fleste
afviser det som nonsens og derfor ikke gider undersøge det. Sådan er
det med så meget.


--
Rado

Har du husket at betale din internetlicens?
http://www.stopcomputerlicens.dk/

Lars (20-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Lars


Dato : 20-03-08 16:00

In article <pnvqt3dlilcn0dn7i08dbm3vtmnfobaps0@4ax.com>, rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk says...
> Alkymisterne havde skam ret - det er absolut muligt at lave
> grundstoffer om til andre gundstoffer på simple måder. Det er blevet
> demonstreret flere gange i nyere tid.

Yeaa right

Nå, men kan du ikke lige give lidt dokumentation for påstanden


Herunder link til den periodiske tabel m grundstoffer, så alle incl. dig ved hvad vi taler om
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table


--
Best regards

Lars
science is 10% new data and 90% confirmation!!
religion is 100% superstition and 0% confirmation!!

Rado (21-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Rado


Dato : 21-03-08 11:18

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:00:20 +0100, Lars <nomail@none.com> wrote:

>In article <pnvqt3dlilcn0dn7i08dbm3vtmnfobaps0@4ax.com>, rado@fjernpost1.tele.dk says...
>> Alkymisterne havde skam ret - det er absolut muligt at lave
>> grundstoffer om til andre gundstoffer på simple måder. Det er blevet
>> demonstreret flere gange i nyere tid.
>
>Yeaa right
>
>Nå, men kan du ikke lige give lidt dokumentation for påstanden

Jo, hvis du til gengæld lover at læse det hele så grundigt at du vil
være i stand til at gå op til eksamen i det...

Men her er indtil videre lidt om Ohsawa's forsøg:

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. Kervran, Dr. George Ohsawa
sought to transmute sodium into potassium in vitro. The method
revealed itself to him in a symbolic dream. Thus inspired, Dr. Ohsawa
and Michio Kushi, et al., constructed an experimental electric
discharge tube with copper (Yin) and iron (Yang) electrodes and a
valve through which to draw a vacuum or admit oxygen (Fig. 3.1). The
first transmutation with this equipment was achieved on June 21, 1964.
After applying 60 watts of electricity for 30 minutes to heat sodium
to a plasma, a molar equivalent of oxygen was introduced. Viewed with
a spectroscope, the orange band of sodium gave way to the blue of
potassium, according to the formula:

Na23 + O16 = K39

Analysis of the reaction product confirmed the result and revealed an
unexpected extra: a trace of gold was produced by the combination of
Na, O, and K with the Cu and Fe electrodes. Several different metals
were tested as electrode materials. Neon and argon atmospheres were
found to enhance the yield of potassium and other elements. External
heating of the reaction tube also served to ionize the sodium.

Dr. Louis Kervran noted these experiments in his book Transmutations A
Faible Energie:

Professor [Masashiro] Torii, on a circuit designed by Prof.
Sakurazawa, and under the control of Prof. Odagiri, observed in the
spectroscope the passage of sodium to potassium upon the adjunction of
a small quantity of oxygen to sodium vapor...

Prof. Torii [of Musashino Institute of Technology, Tokyo] has informed
me of having observed on 21 June 1963, in the spectroscope, the
passage of sodium to potassium, the disappearance of the yellow line
of sodium being replaced by the red-violet ray of 7699 Ao potassium;
the experiment was repeated June 22 before five scientists...

In the production of steel in electric furnaces, the incomprehensible
appearance of boron [has been observed]. We see now that we cannot
exclude, under the effect of a powerful electric field and of the high
temperature of these furnaces, the 'reduction' of carbon from the loss
of hydrogen and in keeping with: C - H = B...

The experience is simple to realize, as it suffices to take a plate of
steel - or of iron - an anode of magnesium, place them in a jar
containing distilled water rendered conductive by a salt of magnesium
- in order not to introduce any metallic ion other than magnesium, and
these two electrodes are reunited by a metal wire, to the exterior of
the jar; thus they realize (in part) a battery with magnesium at the
negative, iron as positive; through the production of hydrogen at the
electrode, magnesium is at a potential of 1.9 volts more negative than
iron. Leave it for two or three months; from time to time add a little
distilled water in order to compensate for evaporation. On analysis,
calcium is obtained... in an operation in which calcium was not
introduced!


>
>Herunder link til den periodiske tabel m grundstoffer, så alle incl. dig ved hvad vi taler om
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table

Mendeleefs tabel er både ufuldstændig og forkert stillet op, den
mangle bl.a. de subatomare grundstoffer (de første 3½ oktaver   ) og
er ude af stand til at vise alle de logiske og periodiske sammenhænge
der er mellem grundstofferne:

http://www.5-dimension.org/members/russell/scans/periodic_mendeleef.jpg

Den logisk korrekte måde at stille tingene på, og som viser alle
periodiske forhold og sammenhænge, er her:

http://www.5-dimension.org/members/russell/scans/russell_periodic_s.jpg

Det var bl.a. på basis af den viden her at Ohsawa udregnede formlen
for Na +O -> K transmutationen.



--
Rado

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Claus E. Petersen (15-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Claus E. Petersen


Dato : 15-03-08 12:10

> strukturerede magnetfelter, eller gennem plasmakemiske processer i et

Hvad er "plasmakemiske processer" ?

- cep

Rado (16-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : Rado


Dato : 16-03-08 21:51

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:09:53 +0100, "Claus E. Petersen"
<snurrberget@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> strukturerede magnetfelter, eller gennem plasmakemiske processer i et
>
>Hvad er "plasmakemiske processer" ?

Reaktioner der finder sted mellem stoffer i plasmaform, dvs. stoffer
der er opvarmet til meget høj temperatur. Plasma kaldes ofte for
stoffets "fjerde tilstand":

1. fast form
2. flydende form
3. dampform
4. plasmaform

Når stoffet er i plasmaform kan man gøre ting med det som man ikke kan
i de andre tilstandsformer, f.ex. er det meget påvirkeligt af
magnetfelter. Russells metode til at transformere grundstoffer til
andre bestod netop i at varme dem op til plasmaform og så udsætte dem
for magnetfelter i en speciel opstilling.

Det kan også gøres uden magnetfelter, hvis man anvender stoffer med
eksakt komplementær polaritet, som reagerer meget let med hinanden.
Ohsawa demonstrerede dette i 1964 da han fusionerede Na + O i
plasmaform til K, i et simplet vaccuumrør, med blot 60W energi. Noget
der inden for den almindelige nuklearfysik kræver gigantiske
højenergiaccelleratorer, og umådelige mængder af energi.



--
Rado

Har du husket at betale din internetlicens?
http://www.stopcomputerlicens.dk/

jenspolsen@hotmail.c~ (07-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : jenspolsen@hotmail.c~


Dato : 07-03-08 06:39

On 7 Mar., 14:20, Rado <r...@fjernpost1.tele.dk> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:58:42 +0100, "Per A. Hansen"
>
> <xper.han...@get2net.dk> wrote:
>
> >"Rado" <r...@fjernpost1.tele.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
> >news:evo0t3932vmh75pvlvt87of909d1gps87m@4ax.com...
>
> >> Walter Russell - af mange regnet for den mest geniale videnskabsmand i
> >> moderne tid - forudsagde allerede i 1954 at udnyttelsen af atomkraften
> >> ville forårsage ødelæggelse af plantens ilt.
>
> >Manden er en charlatan, hvilket vel bedst kan illustreres med de
> >aktuelle data for ilt i atmosfæren.
>
> Han er bestemt ingen charlatan. Det mente en af hans stærkeste
> kritikere i sin tid også, men han skiftede senere mening efter at have
> sat sig ind i hans ideer:
>
> "I now wish to modify my statements and criticisms, for, since writing
> that letter, my viewpoint has somewhat changed...
> "What I considered to be the overnight inspiration of a 'crank' might
> be, instead, the result of an intelligent and prolonged study of
> Nature.
> "I am immensely intrigued by Russell's 'two-way' principle, for it
> gives this universe of motion a meaning to me that it did not have
> before. In fact, we know very little of the why of anything...
> "Why did not some scientist think of this instead of waiting 300 years
> for an artist to tell us about it?... I invite the collaboration and
> criticism of my fellow scientists at large to join me in this... If
> Russell is right, and he surely thinks he is, his claim that science
> needs 'a major surgical operation' is justifiable..."
> -- Dr. John E. Jackson, The New York Times, November 9,
> 1930.
>
> Der var faktisk en hel del anerkendte forskere der støttede hans ideer
> i sin tid, især Tesla, der dog rådede Russell til at låse sin viden
> ned i en kiste i Smithsonian Institute med besked om at den først
> måtte åbnes efter 1000 år, for han mente ikke menneskeheden var parat
> til den endnu. Russell var også lige ved at gøre det, men ombestemte
> sig alligevel og gav sin viden videre. Han blev iøvrigt tildelt en
> doktorgrad i videnskab, plus han var president for Society of Science
> and Arts i 7 år.
>
> Men enhver kan jo tage fejl, og om han har gjort det her skal jeg ikke
> kunne sige. Men tankevækkende er det at han forudsiger at der vil
> komme huller i atmosfærens beskyttelseslag, 35 år før det rent
> faktisk sker.
>
> Jeg selv studeret Russells ideer gennem nogle år, plus at jeg før da
> har stiftet bekendtskab med lignende ideer, bl.a. fra Viktor
> Schauberger. Og jeg er ganske overbevist om at de har fat i den
> rigtige ende. Russell og hans lige havde en viden om en masse ting som
> naturvidenskaben endnu ikke kender noget til, eller ikke har forstået
> at fortolke korrekt. Og de demonstrede det utvetydigt gennem
> forskellige projekter og eksperimenter, hvoraf nogle er blevet
> reproduceret af forskere inden for de senere år. F.ex. omdannelse af
> grundstoffer til andre grundstoffer alene gennem specielt
> strukturerede magnetfelter, eller gennem plasmakemiske processer i et
> almindeligt vacuumrør med blot nogle få watt energi. Noget der
> overhovedet ikke lader sig gøre ud fra de almindelige herskende
> teorier inden for naturvidenskaben. Folk med en sådan viden bør man
> lytte til - de kan også tage fejl, men meget ofte har de ret.
>
> --
> Rado
'
Du er kugleskør!

J.O.


jenspolsen@hotmail.c~ (16-03-2008)
Kommentar
Fra : jenspolsen@hotmail.c~


Dato : 16-03-08 16:45

On 16 Mar., 21:50, Rado <r...@fjernpost1.tele.dk> wrote:

> Det kan også gøres uden magnetfelter, hvis man anvender stoffer med
> eksakt komplementær polaritet, som reagerer meget let med hinanden.
> Ohsawa demonstrerede dette i 1964 da han fusionerede Na + O i
> plasmaform til K, i et simplet vaccuumrør, med blot 60W energi. Noget
> der inden for den almindelige nuklearfysik kræver gigantiske
> højenergiaccelleratorer, og umådelige mængder af energi.

Jeg har et stort tårn i Paris jeg gerne vi sælge dig rigtigt billigt.

J.O.



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