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ID help please, ID6
Fra : Beng


Dato : 20-05-06 13:49

Hi.

Are all these pictures Redshank ?

Thanks and Cheers

http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm

//Ben

 
 
Malcolm (20-05-2006)
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Fra : Malcolm


Dato : 20-05-06 15:25


In article <Xns97C996AEA299Dxnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>, Beng
<xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>Hi.
>
>Are all these pictures Redshank ?
>
>Thanks and Cheers
>
>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>
>//Ben

Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"

--
Malcolm

Beng (20-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Beng


Dato : 20-05-06 15:48

Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7
@indaal.demon.co.uk:

>
> In article <Xns97C996AEA299Dxnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>, Beng
> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>Hi.
>>
>>Are all these pictures Redshank ?
>>
>>Thanks and Cheers
>>
>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>>
>>//Ben
>
> Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"
>

Please try again, works fine here !

//Ben


DH (20-05-2006)
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Fra : DH


Dato : 20-05-06 15:36

Beng wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Are all these pictures Redshank ?
>
> Thanks and Cheers
>
> http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>
> //Ben


The histogram seems to have been stretched to increase the red channel in all pics
showing the legs. Is that correct ? It might be a bit tricky to do the correct ID if
this has happened.

--
Cheers
David Harris

Beng (20-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Beng


Dato : 20-05-06 15:49

DH <nowhere@nohow.com> wrote in
news:tPFbg.72437$wl.22527@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

> Beng wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Are all these pictures Redshank ?
>>
>> Thanks and Cheers
>>
>> http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>>
>> //Ben
>
>
> The histogram seems to have been stretched to increase the red channel
> in all pics showing the legs. Is that correct ? It might be a bit
> tricky to do the correct ID if this has happened.
>

I haven't touch those controls. The pictures are STRAIGHT from the
camera and cropped.

//Ben

Andy Mabbett (20-05-2006)
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Fra : Andy Mabbett


Dato : 20-05-06 22:04

In message <b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm
<Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm

>Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"

"Page size with images: 2148 kb" might explain it!
--
Andy Mabbett
Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: <http://www.no2id.net/>

Free Our Data: <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk>

N/A (21-05-2006)
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Fra : N/A


Dato : 21-05-06 08:56



Beng (21-05-2006)
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Fra : Beng


Dato : 21-05-06 08:56

"Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:4d9fvsF19i9ovU1@individual.net:

>
> "Andy Mabbett" <usenet200309@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:HjfbhnS3Q4bEFwwS@pigsonthewing.org.uk...
> > In message <b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm
> > <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
> >>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
> >
> >>Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"
> >
> > "Page size with images: 2148 kb" might explain it!
>
> Yes, it's important to realise that not everyone can access
> broadband yet
> so a good idea to reduce photo size.
> I couldn't get broadband myself until about 18 months ago. My dial
> up was
> so slow that I rarely read any posted links as I could go down the
> garden and do some weeding before it uploaded, which cost a lot at 1p
> minute.
> We need to be mindful of this, please think of people still on
> dial-up and
> make your foties much smaller.
> I think you are still on dial up, Malcolm?
> Beng, get some new batteries for your camera.
>
> Tina

What change would new battry do for the pictures you think ?

Reduce the distance to the birds ?

//Ben
>
>
>
>
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Christina Websell (21-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Christina Websell


Dato : 21-05-06 20:44


"Beng" <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> wrote in message
news:Xns97CA650D5B56Axnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4...
> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:4d9fvsF19i9ovU1@individual.net:
>
>>
>> "Andy Mabbett" <usenet200309@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:HjfbhnS3Q4bEFwwS@pigsonthewing.org.uk...
>> > In message <b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm
>> > <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>> >>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>> >
>> >>Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"
>> >
>> > "Page size with images: 2148 kb" might explain it!
>>
>> Yes, it's important to realise that not everyone can access
>> broadband yet
>> so a good idea to reduce photo size.
>> I couldn't get broadband myself until about 18 months ago. My dial
>> up was
>> so slow that I rarely read any posted links as I could go down the
>> garden and do some weeding before it uploaded, which cost a lot at 1p
>> minute.
>> We need to be mindful of this, please think of people still on
>> dial-up and
>> make your foties much smaller.
>> I think you are still on dial up, Malcolm?
>> Beng, get some new batteries for your camera.
>>
>> Tina
>
> What change would new battry do for the pictures you think ?

It would (maybe) make them less blurred.
>
> Reduce the distance to the birds ?

Of course not. You know that too.

Tina


>
> //Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> -
>> ---------
>>
>>
>>
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>> Attachment saved: C:\Program\xnews508\attachments\p.gif
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>> end
>>
>>
>



Beng (22-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Beng


Dato : 22-05-06 07:59

"Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:4dbu7nF1911nvU1@individual.net:

>
> "Beng" <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> wrote in message
> news:Xns97CA650D5B56Axnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4...
>> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:4d9fvsF19i9ovU1@individual.net:
>>
>>>
>>> "Andy Mabbett" <usenet200309@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in
message
>>> news:HjfbhnS3Q4bEFwwS@pigsonthewing.org.uk...
>>> > In message <b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm
>>> > <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>>> >>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>>> >
>>> >>Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"
>>> >
>>> > "Page size with images: 2148 kb" might explain it!
>>>
>>> Yes, it's important to realise that not everyone can access
>>> broadband yet
>>> so a good idea to reduce photo size.
>>> I couldn't get broadband myself until about 18 months ago. My
dial
>>> up was
>>> so slow that I rarely read any posted links as I could go down the
>>> garden and do some weeding before it uploaded, which cost a lot at
1p
>>> minute.
>>> We need to be mindful of this, please think of people still on
>>> dial-up and
>>> make your foties much smaller.
>>> I think you are still on dial up, Malcolm?
>>> Beng, get some new batteries for your camera.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>
>> What change would new battry do for the pictures you think ?
>
> It would (maybe) make them less blurred.
>>
>> Reduce the distance to the birds ?
>
> Of course not. You know that too.
>
> Tina

Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
less blurred..

//Ben


>
>
>>
>> //Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> -
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> `
>>> end
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


Christina Websell (23-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Christina Websell


Dato : 23-05-06 00:57


"Beng" <xnewsREMOVE@yahoo.se> wrote in message
news:Xns97CB5B553E48ExnewsREMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4...
> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:4dbu7nF1911nvU1@individual.net:
>
>>
>> "Beng" <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97CA650D5B56Axnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4...
>>> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:4d9fvsF19i9ovU1@individual.net:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andy Mabbett" <usenet200309@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in
> message
>>>> news:HjfbhnS3Q4bEFwwS@pigsonthewing.org.uk...
>>>> > In message <b1EMZNQlaybEFwS7@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm
>>>> > <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>> >>>http://orre.mine.nu/bird_id/id6/id6.htm
>>>> >
>>>> >>Tried to look, but "The connection has timed out"
>>>> >
>>>> > "Page size with images: 2148 kb" might explain it!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's important to realise that not everyone can access
>>>> broadband yet
>>>> so a good idea to reduce photo size.
>>>> I couldn't get broadband myself until about 18 months ago. My
> dial
>>>> up was
>>>> so slow that I rarely read any posted links as I could go down the
>>>> garden and do some weeding before it uploaded, which cost a lot at
> 1p
>>>> minute.
>>>> We need to be mindful of this, please think of people still on
>>>> dial-up and
>>>> make your foties much smaller.
>>>> I think you are still on dial up, Malcolm?
>>>> Beng, get some new batteries for your camera.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>
>>> What change would new battry do for the pictures you think ?
>>
>> It would (maybe) make them less blurred.
>>>
>>> Reduce the distance to the birds ?
>>
>> Of course not. You know that too.
>>
>> Tina
>
> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
> less blurred..
>
> //Ben

Strange, it does for me.

Tina




Doctor J. Frink (23-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Doctor J. Frink


Dato : 23-05-06 02:04

On Tue, 23 May 2006 00:56:54 +0100, Christina Websell
<spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
>> less blurred..
>>
>> //Ben
>
>Strange, it does for me.

How?

Frink

--
Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail'
See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
"No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

Christina Websell (23-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Christina Websell


Dato : 23-05-06 02:26


"Doctor J. Frink" <frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:slrne74nrt.o5n.frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk...
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 00:56:54 +0100, Christina Websell
> <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
>>> less blurred..
>>>
>>> //Ben
>>
>>Strange, it does for me.
>
> How?

Haven't a clue how but it always does on my digital camera.

Tina





boseley (23-05-2006)
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Fra : boseley


Dato : 23-05-06 11:25


"Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4df6ldF1a04irU1@individual.net...
>
> "Doctor J. Frink" <frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrne74nrt.o5n.frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk...
>> On Tue, 23 May 2006 00:56:54 +0100, Christina Websell
>> <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
>>>> less blurred..
>>>>
>>>> //Ben
>>>
>>>Strange, it does for me.
>>
>> How?
>
> Haven't a clue how but it always does on my digital camera.
>
> Tina
>
>
>
>

Specs help as well :-0
--
Bob
Between Holmfirth and Wakefield



Doctor J. Frink (24-05-2006)
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Fra : Doctor J. Frink


Dato : 24-05-06 12:41

On Tue, 23 May 2006 02:25:59 +0100, Christina Websell
<spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"Doctor J. Frink" <frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:slrne74nrt.o5n.frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk...
>> On Tue, 23 May 2006 00:56:54 +0100, Christina Websell
>> <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make pictures
>>>> less blurred..
>>>>
>>>> //Ben
>>>
>>>Strange, it does for me.
>>
>> How?
>
>Haven't a clue how but it always does on my digital camera.

Well, the causes of 'blur' are

1) Subject motion
2) camera motion
3) focusing
4) atmospheric effects

Assuming the camera settings (aperture, ISO, focal length) don't change
when you change the battery I don't see how it could affect 1, 2 or 4
unless you have active image stabilisation.

This leaves focusing, which I suppose could possibly be improved by more
power to drive struggling motors.

Anyway, it's not something I've seen or heard of.

Frink

--
Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail'
See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
"No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

Christina Websell (26-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Christina Websell


Dato : 26-05-06 00:38


"Doctor J. Frink" <frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:slrne78hhp.8lh.frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk...
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 02:25:59 +0100, Christina Websell
> <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>"Doctor J. Frink" <frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>news:slrne74nrt.o5n.frink@homer.cmp.liv.ac.uk...
>>> On Tue, 23 May 2006 00:56:54 +0100, Christina Websell
>>> <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I know that, I also know that a new battery will NOT make
>>>>> pictures
>>>>> less blurred..
>>>>>
>>>>> //Ben
>>>>
>>>>Strange, it does for me.
>>>
>>> How?
>>
>>Haven't a clue how but it always does on my digital camera.
>
> Well, the causes of 'blur' are
>
> 1) Subject motion
> 2) camera motion
> 3) focusing
> 4) atmospheric effects
>
> Assuming the camera settings (aperture, ISO, focal length) don't change
> when you change the battery I don't see how it could affect 1, 2 or 4
> unless you have active image stabilisation.
>
> This leaves focusing, which I suppose could possibly be improved by more
> power to drive struggling motors.
>
> Anyway, it's not something I've seen or heard of.
>

Maybe not, but it works for me every time.

Tina



Gill (21-05-2006)
Kommentar
Fra : Gill


Dato : 21-05-06 12:08

Looks like redshank to me!! Even with any extra red they seem to be
claerly redshank to me! With the addition of something else in a couple
of the last two, greenshank maybe.


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