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Er der nogen som ved, hvad Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah handler om?

Jeg synes bare det er en smuk sang, og ville gerne vide lidt mere om den.

Her er teksten:

I heard there was a secret chord
that David played and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
Well it goes like this :
The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...

Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrough ya
She tied you to her kitchen chair
She broke your throne and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Baby I've been here before
I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
But love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

There was a time when you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show that to me do you
But remember when I moved in you
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Well, maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
It's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...

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Thomas Mouritsen wrote:
> Er der nogen som ved, hvad Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah handler om?
>
> Jeg synes bare det er en smuk sang, og ville gerne vide lidt mere om
> den.
>
> Her er teksten:
>
> I heard there was a secret chord
> that David played and it pleased the Lord
> But you don't really care for music, do you?
> Well it goes like this :
> The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
> The baffled king composing Hallelujah
>
> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...
>
> Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
> You saw her bathing on the roof
> Her beauty and the moonlight overthrough ya
> She tied you to her kitchen chair
> She broke your throne and she cut your hair
> And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
>
> Baby I've been here before
> I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
> I used to live alone before I knew you
> I've seen your flag on the marble arch
> But love is not a victory march
> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>
> There was a time when you let me know
> What's really going on below
> But now you never show that to me do you
> But remember when I moved in you
> And the holy dove was moving too
> And every breath we drew was Hallelujah
>
> Well, maybe there's a God above
> But all I've ever learned from love
> Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
> It's not a cry that you hear at night
> It's not somebody who's seen the light
> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>
> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...


Prøv at høre den i Jeff Buckleys udgave...
Mvh. Finn

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 07:45:26 +0100, Finn Holbek wrote:

> Thomas Mouritsen wrote:
>> Er der nogen som ved, hvad Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah handler om?
>>
>> Jeg synes bare det er en smuk sang, og ville gerne vide lidt mere om
>> den.
>>
>> Her er teksten:
>>
>> I heard there was a secret chord
>> that David played and it pleased the Lord
>> But you don't really care for music, do you?
>> Well it goes like this :
>> The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
>> The baffled king composing Hallelujah
>>
>> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...
>>
>> Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
>> You saw her bathing on the roof
>> Her beauty and the moonlight overthrough ya
>> She tied you to her kitchen chair
>> She broke your throne and she cut your hair
>> And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
>>
>> Baby I've been here before
>> I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
>> I used to live alone before I knew you
>> I've seen your flag on the marble arch
>> But love is not a victory march
>> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>>
>> There was a time when you let me know
>> What's really going on below
>> But now you never show that to me do you
>> But remember when I moved in you
>> And the holy dove was moving too
>> And every breath we drew was Hallelujah
>>
>> Well, maybe there's a God above
>> But all I've ever learned from love
>> Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
>> It's not a cry that you hear at night
>> It's not somebody who's seen the light
>> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>>
>> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...
>
>
> Prøv at høre den i Jeff Buckleys udgave...
> Mvh. Finn

Jeg synes personligt at Jeff Buckleys udgave er guddommelig og Cohens er
rigtig fed. Men jeg synes også man bør Rufus Wrainwrights. Det er den der
er med i Shrek.

MP

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MP Jakobsen" <"mpej[slet_dette] wrote:
> Jeg synes personligt at Jeff Buckleys udgave er guddommelig og Cohens
> er rigtig fed. Men jeg synes også man bør Rufus Wrainwrights. Det er
> den der er med i Shrek.

Mere præcist: Det er den, der er på soundtracket til Shrek. I selve filmen
er det John Cale, der synger. Hans udgave af Hallelujah kan man finde på
soundtracket til filmen Basquiat. Der var vist noget med, at de, der lavede
Shrek, ikke kunne få rettighederne til at lægge Cales udgave på
soundtracket.
--
Christina Estrup

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MP Jakobsen" <"mpej[slet_dette] wrote:
> Jeg synes personligt at Jeff Buckleys udgave er guddommelig og Cohens
> er rigtig fed. Men jeg synes også man bør Rufus Wrainwrights. Det er
> den der er med i Shrek.

Det svar, jeg skrev, er åbenbart blevet ædt, så jeg prøver igen. Jeg
undskylder, hvis det her dukker op to gange.

Mere præcist: Rufus Wainwrights udgave er på *soundtracket* til Shrek. I
selve filmen er det John Cale, der synger. Hans udgave af Hallelujah kan man
finde på soundtracket til filmen Basquiat. Der var vist noget med, at de,
der lavede Shrek, ikke kunne få rettighederne til at lægge Cales udgave på
soundtracket.

--
Christina Estrup

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Christina Estrup wrote:
>
> Det svar, jeg skrev, er åbenbart blevet ædt, så jeg prøver igen. Jeg
> undskylder, hvis det her dukker op to gange.
>

Det er ikke blevet ædt på min server. Nok kun på den du bruger.

/David

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Finn Holbek wrote:
>
> Prøv at høre den i Jeff Buckleys udgave...
> Mvh. Finn
>

Jeg kan personligt godt leve uden hulke-johnnys skabagtige version.

/David

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David Rasmussen wrote:
> Finn Holbek wrote:
>>
>> Prøv at høre den i Jeff Buckleys udgave...
>> Mvh. Finn
>>
>
> Jeg kan personligt godt leve uden hulke-johnnys skabagtige version.
>
> /David



Jamen værsgo, vi lever skam i et frit samfund og alt det der. Du må også
selvom hvorvidt du vil spise tørstegt lever og børste tænder inden du går i
seng;-P

/Finn

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Hørt! Sådan har jeg det med al hans musik - han når ikke sin far til
sokkeholderne!

--
Med venlig hilsen

Jakob

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>> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...
>
>
> Prøv at høre den i Jeff Buckleys udgave...
> Mvh. Finn
>
>

Det er efter min mening også den fedeste udgave, men kan dog også
godt lide danske Freyas fortolkning af sangen. Den kommer ikke op på siden
af Buckleys, men prøv at hør' den.

/Søren Hjelholt

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Thomas Mouritsen wrote:
> Er der nogen som ved, hvad Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah handler om?
>
> Jeg synes bare det er en smuk sang, og ville gerne vide lidt mere om
> den.
>
> Her er teksten:
>
> I heard there was a secret chord
> that David played and it pleased the Lord
> But you don't really care for music, do you?
> Well it goes like this :
> The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
> The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Det må være Kong David fra Biblen. Han spillede lovsange til på lyre eller
harpe.


> Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
> You saw her bathing on the roof
> Her beauty and the moonlight overthrough ya
> She tied you to her kitchen chair
> She broke your throne and she cut your hair
> And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Det må være Davids affære med Urias' hustru Batseba.


> Baby I've been here before
> I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
> I used to live alone before I knew you
> I've seen your flag on the marble arch
> But love is not a victory march
> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>
> There was a time when you let me know
> What's really going on below
> But now you never show that to me do you
> But remember when I moved in you
> And the holy dove was moving too
> And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Ved ikke. Det lyder lidt som om sangens fortæller nu synger til sin kære.


> Well, maybe there's a God above
> But all I've ever learned from love
> Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
> It's not a cry that you hear at night
> It's not somebody who's seen the light
> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Det er vist stadig til fortællerens kære, men måske er der referencer til
David. Han fortrød bitterligt hvad han gjorde mod Urias (stjal hans hustru
og sendte ham i døden på slagmarken). "Shoot somebody who outdrew you" kan
måske henvise til dengang David slog Goliath ihjel, men det gi'r vel ingen
mening i denne sammenhæng. I øvrigt har jeg svært ved at forstå tekstens
mening eller budskab.

Andre har forsøgt at tolke teksten her:
http://www.chromehorse.net/rants/rants01/hallelujah.htm
http://monadology.net/archives/2003/12/31/000145.php

--
Jesper Brogaard, Denmark
(Please do not reply by email)

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"Jesper Brogaard" <me@privacy.net> skrev i en meddelelse
newsmUb.853$f92.842@news.get2net.dk...
> Thomas Mouritsen wrote:
> > Er der nogen som ved, hvad Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah handler om?
> >
> > Jeg synes bare det er en smuk sang, og ville gerne vide lidt mere om
> > den.
> >
> > Her er teksten:
> >
> > I heard there was a secret chord
> > that David played and it pleased the Lord
> > But you don't really care for music, do you?
> > Well it goes like this :
> > The fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the major lift
> > The baffled king composing Hallelujah
>
> Det må være Kong David fra Biblen. Han spillede lovsange til på lyre eller
> harpe.
>
>
> > Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
> > You saw her bathing on the roof
> > Her beauty and the moonlight overthrough ya
> > She tied you to her kitchen chair
> > She broke your throne and she cut your hair
> > And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
>
> Det må være Davids affære med Urias' hustru Batseba.
>
>
> > Baby I've been here before
> > I've seen this room and I've walked this floor
> > I used to live alone before I knew you
> > I've seen your flag on the marble arch
> > But love is not a victory march
> > It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
> >
> > There was a time when you let me know
> > What's really going on below
> > But now you never show that to me do you
> > But remember when I moved in you
> > And the holy dove was moving too
> > And every breath we drew was Hallelujah
>
> Ved ikke. Det lyder lidt som om sangens fortæller nu synger til sin kære.
>
>
> > Well, maybe there's a God above
> > But all I've ever learned from love
> > Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
> > It's not a cry that you hear at night
> > It's not somebody who's seen the light
> > It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>
> Det er vist stadig til fortællerens kære, men måske er der referencer til
> David. Han fortrød bitterligt hvad han gjorde mod Urias (stjal hans hustru
> og sendte ham i døden på slagmarken). "Shoot somebody who outdrew you" kan
> måske henvise til dengang David slog Goliath ihjel, men det gi'r vel ingen
> mening i denne sammenhæng. I øvrigt har jeg svært ved at forstå tekstens
> mening eller budskab.
>
> Andre har forsøgt at tolke teksten her:
> http://www.chromehorse.net/rants/rants01/hallelujah.htm
> http://monadology.net/archives/2003/12/31/000145.php
>
> --
> Jesper Brogaard, Denmark
> (Please do not reply by email)
>
>
De sidste par vers, ser ud til at omhandle, at da begæret flyttede ind,
flyttede den hellige due også, underforstået "ud"
efterfulgt af at indse, at han jo faktisk havde mistet en stor del af sin
tro på Gud, og han stædigt fortsatte med at straffe alle, som prøvede at få
ham tilbage på rette kurs. Så i grove træk, kan man vel sige, at den
handler om de 10 bud.

M.V.H.....Benny..

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Benny Mortensen wrote:

> De sidste par vers, ser ud til at omhandle, at da begæret flyttede
> ind, flyttede den hellige due også, underforstået "ud"
> efterfulgt af at indse, at han jo faktisk havde mistet en stor del af
> sin tro på Gud, og han stædigt fortsatte med at straffe alle, som
> prøvede at få ham tilbage på rette kurs. Så i grove træk, kan man
> vel sige, at den handler om de 10 bud.

Hmm, David angrede da. Han blev tilgivet og blev forfar til Jesus. Mener
ikke at han stædigt straffede andre. Kan heller ikke se at sangen på nogen
måde (direkte) refererer til de 10 bud. Jeg tror at sangen handler om det
ødelæggende og på sigt utilfredsstillende kødelige begær i kontrast til ægte
kærlighed (til Gud).


--
Jesper Brogaard, Denmark
(Please do not reply by email)

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> Well, maybe there's a God above
> But all I've ever learned from love
> Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
> It's not a cry that you hear at night
> It's not somebody who's seen the light
> It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
>
> Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah...

Leonard Cohen skrev den efter at hans kæreste havde slået op med ham, så den
handler om ulykkelig kærlighed. Men stadigvæk er den utroligt god sang. Vi
spiller den selv i vores band.

Mvh
Simon