---

Nedenstående artikel indeholder en sønderlemmende kritik af Europa og især
Spanien i.f.b. med terroren.

Journalisten er amerikaner og skildrer derfor terror problematikken ud fra
et andet perspektiv end vanligt.

IMO er den værd at læse.

Enkelte synspunkter blandt flere i hovedpunkter:

* Terrorisme og mord bliver belønnet.

* Spansk kapitulation

* Terrorisme og appeasement er uforenelige størrelse

* Konsekvenser af terrorismen i Europa

* Manglende europæisk handlekraft

* Bush udråbes til syndebuk





By Barbara Stock
March 15, 2004

When the next bomb goes off--perhaps this time in Poland--the families of
the dead should blame the people in Spain who voted to run from terrorists
and cower before them instead of standing strong against them.

Sound cruel? Perhaps, but it is the sad truth. The majority of Spaniards
decided to follow the illogical path of blaming their President for the
attack in Madrid instead of the people who actually carried out mass murder.
In doing so, they handed the butchers a victory. Terrorism and murder have
been handsomely rewarded this day.

When word of the vicious attack in Madrid, killing 200 and severely injuring
over a thousand broke, I had overwhelming sympathy for them. I no longer do.
That sounds horrible but by taking the cowards' path they have given
permission to al Qaeda or any other terrorist group to run amok across
Europe and anywhere in the world to "punish" anyone who dares defy them. The
terrorists must be giddy with joy over their success. They have been handed
an entire country for a relatively inexpensive attack.

My guess is the new socialist president will pull the Spanish troops out of
Iraq. After all, to leave them there would be a sign of defiance and he
won't want the terrorists thinking there is any fight left in them. Total
and complete capitulation is what the people have chosen. Appeasement, the
European way, is the road they will now go down. I will have no sympathy for
them from this point forward.

What is mystifying about all this is that Europe never seems to learn from
the past. Over and over again there are examples of appeasement that have
failed, often leading to terrible wars where millions have died. Yet, once
again, they seem willing to give it just one more try. Maybe THIS time, it
will work. It won't. I have no faith in the people of Old Europe ever
learning from their mistakes. Instead, they have come to rely on the
Americans to come and save them from their own ignorance. I'm beginning to
wonder if we should bother.

Neville Chamberlain, perhaps the most famous appeaser, came home with a
paper he said would keep England safe from Hitler. The British people could
sleep well now, knowing he had removed the threat. Tony Blair did not want
to become England's modern-day Chamberlain. He knew you could not deal with
or appease these terrorists but the majority of British people don't feel
that way. Come election time, Blair may well find himself suffering the same
fate as Winston Churchill. This will be another victory for the likes of bin
Laden.

As country after country tries to hide from the death and destruction by
holding up their hands in surrender, the more people will die. You see,
terrorists take no prisoners. They have no respect for weakness. Their
master-plan is the total and complete destruction of the Western world and
its way of life. It is mind boggling that there are people who still cannot
see this.

As an American, I have heard the same train of thought here. The attack of
9/11 was deserved. Even an ex-president blamed it on the Crusades and
American imperialistic attitude in the world. Yes, we should have taken the
attack as punishment long over-due and eat humble pie. We have a socialist
party here as well. Its members pass themselves off as Democrats or
"progressives" these days. What is progressive about their beliefs is yet to
be seen.

The man presently running on that "progressive" ticket is one that will stop
the war on terror. In his mind, there is no war--only random "crimes." Let
there be no mistake or misunderstanding about this--the vote in Spain
absolutely guarantees there will be a major attack, here, in the States,
prior to the November election.

Not only will Islamic fundamentalists run wild all over Europe killing and
creating mayhem, they will activate groups here and their attacks will be
specifically carried out to alter the outcome of the election. They want
George W. Bush out of office. He is their biggest threat. Perhaps, he is
their only threat.

The pattern is now set in stone. The machine is in motion and it is unlikely
anything can stop it. There will be a massive attack here, somewhere, with
many casualties and the opposition will blame President Bush for the attack.
Count on it.

Just as in Spain, the Democrats will not blame the true enemy of America--
they will blame the incumbent president. With all the fervor of maniacal
Bible-thumpers, they will point the finger of blame at Bush as the evil one.
HE started this war. Americans have died because of HIM. HE didn't try to
reason with the enemy. HE chose to irrationally fight our enemies. HE
decided to root them out where they live, making them angry and defensive.
HE went against the will of the world to simply look the other way and hope
it all goes away.

Our only hope is this--that as Americans we have been away from the European
mind-set long enough to know that you cannot run from the enemy but must
face them. You cannot reason with them because they are irrational. You
cannot talk with them because they will not hear. If we as Americans must
fight this war alone, then so be it. I will have neither respect nor
sympathy for those who will pay the price of trying to bargain with the
devil.


--
Joakim

'Our greatest strength lies not in never falling, but in rising each time we
fall.'
Winston Churchill

---

Ups! det havnede af uransalige grunde det forkerte sted. Fut til politik.dk




"Joakim" <ncm_abfjern@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:c3fmkl$e68$1@sunsite.dk...
>
>
> Nedenstående artikel indeholder en sønderlemmende kritik af Europa og især
> Spanien i.f.b. med terroren.
>
> Journalisten er amerikaner og skildrer derfor terror problematikken ud fra
> et andet perspektiv end vanligt.
>
> IMO er den værd at læse.
>
> Enkelte synspunkter blandt flere i hovedpunkter:
>
> * Terrorisme og mord bliver belønnet.
>
> * Spansk kapitulation
>
> * Terrorisme og appeasement er uforenelige størrelse
>
> * Konsekvenser af terrorismen i Europa
>
> * Manglende europæisk handlekraft
>
> * Bush udråbes til syndebuk
>
>
>
>
>
> By Barbara Stock
> March 15, 2004
>
> When the next bomb goes off--perhaps this time in Poland--the families of
> the dead should blame the people in Spain who voted to run from terrorists
> and cower before them instead of standing strong against them.
>
> Sound cruel? Perhaps, but it is the sad truth. The majority of Spaniards
> decided to follow the illogical path of blaming their President for the
> attack in Madrid instead of the people who actually carried out mass
murder.
> In doing so, they handed the butchers a victory. Terrorism and murder have
> been handsomely rewarded this day.
>
> When word of the vicious attack in Madrid, killing 200 and severely
injuring
> over a thousand broke, I had overwhelming sympathy for them. I no longer
do.
> That sounds horrible but by taking the cowards' path they have given
> permission to al Qaeda or any other terrorist group to run amok across
> Europe and anywhere in the world to "punish" anyone who dares defy them.
The
> terrorists must be giddy with joy over their success. They have been
handed
> an entire country for a relatively inexpensive attack.
>
> My guess is the new socialist president will pull the Spanish troops out
of
> Iraq. After all, to leave them there would be a sign of defiance and he
> won't want the terrorists thinking there is any fight left in them. Total
> and complete capitulation is what the people have chosen. Appeasement, the
> European way, is the road they will now go down. I will have no sympathy
for
> them from this point forward.
>
> What is mystifying about all this is that Europe never seems to learn from
> the past. Over and over again there are examples of appeasement that have
> failed, often leading to terrible wars where millions have died. Yet, once
> again, they seem willing to give it just one more try. Maybe THIS time, it
> will work. It won't. I have no faith in the people of Old Europe ever
> learning from their mistakes. Instead, they have come to rely on the
> Americans to come and save them from their own ignorance. I'm beginning to
> wonder if we should bother.
>
> Neville Chamberlain, perhaps the most famous appeaser, came home with a
> paper he said would keep England safe from Hitler. The British people
could
> sleep well now, knowing he had removed the threat. Tony Blair did not want
> to become England's modern-day Chamberlain. He knew you could not deal
with
> or appease these terrorists but the majority of British people don't feel
> that way. Come election time, Blair may well find himself suffering the
same
> fate as Winston Churchill. This will be another victory for the likes of
bin
> Laden.
>
> As country after country tries to hide from the death and destruction by
> holding up their hands in surrender, the more people will die. You see,
> terrorists take no prisoners. They have no respect for weakness. Their
> master-plan is the total and complete destruction of the Western world and
> its way of life. It is mind boggling that there are people who still
cannot
> see this.
>
> As an American, I have heard the same train of thought here. The attack of
> 9/11 was deserved. Even an ex-president blamed it on the Crusades and
> American imperialistic attitude in the world. Yes, we should have taken
the
> attack as punishment long over-due and eat humble pie. We have a socialist
> party here as well. Its members pass themselves off as Democrats or
> "progressives" these days. What is progressive about their beliefs is yet
to
> be seen.
>
> The man presently running on that "progressive" ticket is one that will
stop
> the war on terror. In his mind, there is no war--only random "crimes." Let
> there be no mistake or misunderstanding about this--the vote in Spain
> absolutely guarantees there will be a major attack, here, in the States,
> prior to the November election.
>
> Not only will Islamic fundamentalists run wild all over Europe killing and
> creating mayhem, they will activate groups here and their attacks will be
> specifically carried out to alter the outcome of the election. They want
> George W. Bush out of office. He is their biggest threat. Perhaps, he is
> their only threat.
>
> The pattern is now set in stone. The machine is in motion and it is
unlikely
> anything can stop it. There will be a massive attack here, somewhere, with
> many casualties and the opposition will blame President Bush for the
attack.
> Count on it.
>
> Just as in Spain, the Democrats will not blame the true enemy of America--
> they will blame the incumbent president. With all the fervor of maniacal
> Bible-thumpers, they will point the finger of blame at Bush as the evil
one.
> HE started this war. Americans have died because of HIM. HE didn't try to
> reason with the enemy. HE chose to irrationally fight our enemies. HE
> decided to root them out where they live, making them angry and defensive.
> HE went against the will of the world to simply look the other way and
hope
> it all goes away.
>
> Our only hope is this--that as Americans we have been away from the
European
> mind-set long enough to know that you cannot run from the enemy but must
> face them. You cannot reason with them because they are irrational. You
> cannot talk with them because they will not hear. If we as Americans must
> fight this war alone, then so be it. I will have neither respect nor
> sympathy for those who will pay the price of trying to bargain with the
> devil.
>
>
> --
> Joakim
>
> 'Our greatest strength lies not in never falling, but in rising each time
we
> fall.'
> Winston Churchill
>
>
>

---

"Joakim" <ncm_abfjern@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:c3fn9h$fc4$1@sunsite.dk:

> Ups! det havnede af uransalige grunde det forkerte sted. Fut til
> politik.dk

ROTFL!!!

--
That which does not kill you makes you stronger.
Med venlig hilsen
arc@na

---

- Simplificerede argumenter
- "They want George W. Bush out of office. He is their biggest threat.
Perhaps, he is their only threat" Haha, GWB-propaganda??
- Fuldstændig ligegyldigt for denne gruppe. Hvis du poster igen bliver
du anmeldt for spam!!

---

Undskylder mange gange. det havnede af uransalige grunde det forkerte sted.
Er futtet til politik.dk


--
Joakim

'Our greatest strength lies not in never falling, but in rising each time we
fall.'
Winston Churchill
"LH" <NOSPAM@FAKE.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:c3K6c.121183$jf4.6798220@news000.worldonline.dk...
> - Simplificerede argumenter
> - "They want George W. Bush out of office. He is their biggest threat.
> Perhaps, he is their only threat" Haha, GWB-propaganda??
> - Fuldstændig ligegyldigt for denne gruppe. Hvis du poster igen bliver
> du anmeldt for spam!!

---

Hov Joakim.. Det er altså ikke ret hunderelateret det der...

Ha en god weekend!



"Joakim" <ncm_abfjern@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:c3fmkl$e68$1@sunsite.dk...
>
>
> Nedenstående artikel indeholder en sønderlemmende kritik af Europa og især
> Spanien i.f.b. med terroren.
>
> Journalisten er amerikaner og skildrer derfor terror problematikken ud fra
> et andet perspektiv end vanligt.
>
> IMO er den værd at læse.
>
> Enkelte synspunkter blandt flere i hovedpunkter:
>
> * Terrorisme og mord bliver belønnet.
>
> * Spansk kapitulation
>
> * Terrorisme og appeasement er uforenelige størrelse
>
> * Konsekvenser af terrorismen i Europa
>
> * Manglende europæisk handlekraft
>
> * Bush udråbes til syndebuk
>
>
>
>
>
> By Barbara Stock
> March 15, 2004
>
> When the next bomb goes off--perhaps this time in Poland--the families of
> the dead should blame the people in Spain who voted to run from terrorists
> and cower before them instead of standing strong against them.
>
> Sound cruel? Perhaps, but it is the sad truth. The majority of Spaniards
> decided to follow the illogical path of blaming their President for the
> attack in Madrid instead of the people who actually carried out mass
murder.
> In doing so, they handed the butchers a victory. Terrorism and murder have
> been handsomely rewarded this day.
>
> When word of the vicious attack in Madrid, killing 200 and severely
injuring
> over a thousand broke, I had overwhelming sympathy for them. I no longer
do.
> That sounds horrible but by taking the cowards' path they have given
> permission to al Qaeda or any other terrorist group to run amok across
> Europe and anywhere in the world to "punish" anyone who dares defy them.
The
> terrorists must be giddy with joy over their success. They have been
handed
> an entire country for a relatively inexpensive attack.
>
> My guess is the new socialist president will pull the Spanish troops out
of
> Iraq. After all, to leave them there would be a sign of defiance and he
> won't want the terrorists thinking there is any fight left in them. Total
> and complete capitulation is what the people have chosen. Appeasement, the
> European way, is the road they will now go down. I will have no sympathy
for
> them from this point forward.
>
> What is mystifying about all this is that Europe never seems to learn from
> the past. Over and over again there are examples of appeasement that have
> failed, often leading to terrible wars where millions have died. Yet, once
> again, they seem willing to give it just one more try. Maybe THIS time, it
> will work. It won't. I have no faith in the people of Old Europe ever
> learning from their mistakes. Instead, they have come to rely on the
> Americans to come and save them from their own ignorance. I'm beginning to
> wonder if we should bother.
>
> Neville Chamberlain, perhaps the most famous appeaser, came home with a
> paper he said would keep England safe from Hitler. The British people
could
> sleep well now, knowing he had removed the threat. Tony Blair did not want
> to become England's modern-day Chamberlain. He knew you could not deal
with
> or appease these terrorists but the majority of British people don't feel
> that way. Come election time, Blair may well find himself suffering the
same
> fate as Winston Churchill. This will be another victory for the likes of
bin
> Laden.
>
> As country after country tries to hide from the death and destruction by
> holding up their hands in surrender, the more people will die. You see,
> terrorists take no prisoners. They have no respect for weakness. Their
> master-plan is the total and complete destruction of the Western world and
> its way of life. It is mind boggling that there are people who still
cannot
> see this.
>
> As an American, I have heard the same train of thought here. The attack of
> 9/11 was deserved. Even an ex-president blamed it on the Crusades and
> American imperialistic attitude in the world. Yes, we should have taken
the
> attack as punishment long over-due and eat humble pie. We have a socialist
> party here as well. Its members pass themselves off as Democrats or
> "progressives" these days. What is progressive about their beliefs is yet
to
> be seen.
>
> The man presently running on that "progressive" ticket is one that will
stop
> the war on terror. In his mind, there is no war--only random "crimes." Let
> there be no mistake or misunderstanding about this--the vote in Spain
> absolutely guarantees there will be a major attack, here, in the States,
> prior to the November election.
>
> Not only will Islamic fundamentalists run wild all over Europe killing and
> creating mayhem, they will activate groups here and their attacks will be
> specifically carried out to alter the outcome of the election. They want
> George W. Bush out of office. He is their biggest threat. Perhaps, he is
> their only threat.
>
> The pattern is now set in stone. The machine is in motion and it is
unlikely
> anything can stop it. There will be a massive attack here, somewhere, with
> many casualties and the opposition will blame President Bush for the
attack.
> Count on it.
>
> Just as in Spain, the Democrats will not blame the true enemy of America--
> they will blame the incumbent president. With all the fervor of maniacal
> Bible-thumpers, they will point the finger of blame at Bush as the evil
one.
> HE started this war. Americans have died because of HIM. HE didn't try to
> reason with the enemy. HE chose to irrationally fight our enemies. HE
> decided to root them out where they live, making them angry and defensive.
> HE went against the will of the world to simply look the other way and
hope
> it all goes away.
>
> Our only hope is this--that as Americans we have been away from the
European
> mind-set long enough to know that you cannot run from the enemy but must
> face them. You cannot reason with them because they are irrational. You
> cannot talk with them because they will not hear. If we as Americans must
> fight this war alone, then so be it. I will have neither respect nor
> sympathy for those who will pay the price of trying to bargain with the
> devil.
>
>
> --
> Joakim
>
> 'Our greatest strength lies not in never falling, but in rising each time
we
> fall.'
> Winston Churchill
>
>
>

---

Camilla Panduro Knudsen wrote:
> Hov Joakim.. Det er altså ikke ret hunderelateret det der...
>
> Ha en god weekend!
>

Kun hvis man synes at de er nogle hundehoveder allesammen

/Jens