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VISA ELECTRON CARD
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 27-06-03 12:35

Hvis man er med i WGI www.worldgamesinc.com
Har man mulighed for at få et PAY2 VISA ELECTRON CARD www.pay2.net

Hvad jeg sådan lige kan læse mig til, så hæfter man selv for hvad der skulle
blive hævet på ens kor hvis det bliver stjålet.

Hvilken mulighed har den her bank for at indhente sine penge hos kort
holderen?
Banken er placeret i Cypern kan jeg se på deres hjemme side

FBME Cyprus
Federal Bank of the Middle East
P.O.Box 25566, 1391 Nicosia, CYPRUS.
http://www.fbme.com


FBME Electronic Wallet
CONDITIONS OF ISSUE & USE

The following Terms and Conditions are incorporated into and form part of
any agreement by which FEDERAL BANK OF THE MIDDLE EAST LTD (FBME) described
herein as the Bank, agrees to provide a Electronic Wallet to a person
applying to become a holder of the Electronic Wallet Account.

1. DEFINITIONS

BANK means FBME.

VISA ELECTRON CARD means a card, which is provided to the holder of FBME
Electronic Wallet, under the separate Terms & Conditions.

ELECTRONIC WALLET ACCOUNT or ACCOUNT means the account opened and maintained
by the Bank in a billing currency into which all payments transferred into
Electronic Wallet are credited and for entering all Electronic Transactions
made by the Account Holder, and for debiting all Charges and crediting any
credits actually received in relation to the Account under these Terms and
Conditions.

ACCOUNT HOLDER means the person who has applied for the FBME Electronic
Wallet and in whose name the Electronic Wallet Account is held at the Bank.

ELECTRONIC TRANSACTION means any transaction at the FBME approved internet
sites or any other transaction effected by the Account Holder by charge to
the Electronic Wallet.

ELECTRONIC WALLET means a virtual purse identified by unique number issued
by the Bank into which funds may be transferred by the Account Holder and
which can be accessed electronically at the internet sites authorized by the
Bank for the purchase of goods and/or services offered by those internet
sites. Funds transferred into the Electronic Wallet shall be held by the
Bank on the Electronic Wallet Account.

CHARGES means all amounts charged to an Electronic Wallet by the Account
holder whether by means of an Electronic Transaction or otherwise, or by the
Bank in accordance with these terms and conditions, at any time, including
but not limited to the period after cancellation of the Account, and
including application fees, annual fees and all other items included within
Fees and Tariffs as defined herein.

CREDIT BALANCE means the total credit balance in the Electronic Wallet
Account.

DEBIT BALANCE means the total debit balance outstanding in the Electronic
Wallet Account and payable to the Bank according to the Bank's records.

FEES AND TARIFFS shall be the fees chargeable to Electronic Wallet Accounts
in accordance with the Bank's published schedule of Fees and Tariffs for the
Bank's Electronic Wallet Account as current and applicable from time to
time.

STATEMENT means the statement of the Electronic Wallet Account of each
Account Holder.

2. APPLICATION FOR AN ELECTRONIC ACCOUNT
2.1 Application for an Electronic Wallet Account is accomplished by the
applicant:

(a) electronically completing the Bank's Application Form and transmitting
it to the Bank.

(b) printing and signing the Application form and mailing to the Bank or its
Agents as directed by the Bank with such documents required by the Bank to
open Electronic Wallet Account.

(c) providing such further information relating to the applicant or to the
nature or source of the funds transferred or to be transferred to the Bank,
as the Bank may require, having regard to its obligations at law and to the
regulations and requirements of such supervisory authorities or
institutions, to which it may be subject in any relevant jurisdiction.

2.2 Upon the Bank accepting the application it will issue and transmit to
the Applicant the Electronic Wallet Account Number applied for as directed
by the Applicant.

2.3 The Account Holder shall be deemed to warrant the accuracy and
completeness of the information provided in the Application Form and that,
where laws and regulations of any country in which the Applicant is resident
or from the country where the Application is made, imposes or implies any
regulations to the Application or any terms in these Terms and Conditions
then the Application and these Terms and Conditions, shall be subject to
such laws or regulations.

2.4 The Electronic Wallet Account will not be operational until the
Application Fees and the initial credit to the Electronic Account has been
received by the Bank, either by charging the existing Credit Card or by such
other payments as may be accepted by the Bank from time to time.

3. DELIVERY OF ELECTRONIC WALLET
3.1 The Electronic Wallet Account Number will be transmitted to the
Applicant online, and in real time upon completion of the Application form
and the acceptance of the Application by the Bank

3.2 Upon receipt of the completed Application Form, the Bank will send VISA
Electron Card to the Account Holder.

USE OF THE ELECTRONIC WALLET
4.1 The Account shall be used within the Credit Balance of the Account as
established by the Account Holder with the Bank through replenishments to
the Account made from time to time and during the validity period of the
Account to obtain the facilities and benefits made available by the Bank
from time to time at its absolute discretion in respect of the use of the
Electronic Wallet Account.

4.2 Account Holder shall be fully liable to the Bank for all Electronic
Transactions made with or without the knowledge of the Account Holder.

4.3 The Bank shall have the right at any time, without prior notice and
without giving any reason and without liability towards the Account Holder,
whether the Credit Balance has been exhausted or not, to withdraw and
restrict the right to use the Account or to refuse to authorise any
Transaction.

4.4 Electronic Transactions, taking place in a currency other than the
billing currency will be converted to the billing currency automatically.
Conversion will be effected by the Bank under its normal condition of
Business at the rate ruling at the time.

4.5 Use of the Electronic Wallet Account after its expiration date, or when
disputes arise in accordance with Condition 5.7, or after the Account Holder
has cancelled the Account or elected not to renew the Account in accordance
with these Terms and Conditions, constitutes illegal use of the Account.

4.6 Accountholder will be able to load or replenish the Electronic Wallet
Account by transferring funds from a Credit Card, and by any other such
method advised to the Account Holder by the Bank from time to time.

4.7. The Account Holder accepts that the Electronic Wallet may only be used
on and may be accepted only by, internet sites designated and/or approved by
the Bank from time to time.

5. THE ELECTRONIC ACCOUNT
5.1 The Bank shall debit the account with the amounts of all Electronic
Transactions and Charges and any other liabilities of the Account Holder
arising from the use or misuse of the Electronic Wallet.

5.2 The Bank shall be entitled to treat:

(a) any Electronic Transaction recorded on or charged to the Account as duly
completed shall be binding on the Account Holder; and

(b) the Bank's record of any Electronic Transaction as conclusive evidence
of a Charge properly incurred by the Account Holder to be debited to the
Electronic Wallet Account.

5.3 The Account Holder is liable for all Charges incurred on the Account. If
applicable the Bank may draw down the monies due to it in respect of Charges
on the Account Holder's Account from the Guarantor of any Guarantee on which
it is relying as Security.

5.4 The Bank will prepare a Statement of the Electronic Account showing
details of all Charges during the month in question and this will be
accessible via website on the internet. The Statement of Account shall, in
the absence of any written objections within thirty (30) days from the
transaction posting date, be deemed confirmed and correct.

5.5 Transactions posted later than thirty (30) days from the date of the
actual transaction due to delays of merchants or banks acquiring such
transactions do not in any way exonerate the Account Holder from payment of
such transactions.

5.6 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Account Holder for:

(a) any losses and/or damages

(b) non-acceptance of the Account by a merchant.

(c) non-receipt of goods and/or services.

(d) any losses and/or damages due to or arising from any disruption or
failure or defect in any communication system or data processing system or
transmission link.

5.7 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services purchased
pursuant to an Electronic Transaction. No claim by the Account Holder
against a third party may be the subject of a claim, defense or counterclaim
against the Bank and such disputes in no way release the Account /holder
from responsibility for all payments to the Bank.

5.8. The Bank shall be under no obligation to refund any funds standing to
the credit of the Account. In the event the Account Holder applies to the
Bank for monies to be refunded, or applied to other card accounts held by
the Account Holder with the Bank, the Bank will consider complying with each
and any such request at its discretion and on an ex gratia basis.

5.9 The Bank shall not be required to post or otherwise deliver or provide
any paper Statement of an Electronic Wallet Account.

6. PAYMENT
6.1 If the Account Holder's Electronic Wallet account is overdrawn, the
Cardholder shall forthwith, upon demand by the Bank, pay to the Bank the
full sum by which the Account is overdrawn, failing which the whole amount
outstanding in the Account shall become immediately due and payable, and the
Bank may withdraw or cancel the Account. The Bank shall have the right to
meet any deficit on an Electronic Wallet Account by charging such deficit to
the account of any other Card Account or Electronic Wallet Account issued by
the Bank and held by the Account Holder. All fees for using the Pay2 service
will be outlined in your Visa Electron Applicant Pack. Please read this
carefully.

7. LOAD/REPLENISHMENT
7.1 The Account Holder may replenish the Account in accordance Terms &
Conditions of the Bank in force from time to time except that the
minimum/maximum replenishment is set in accordance with the Fees and
Tariffs. A Fixed fee will be deducted from the Account Holder's Electronic
Wallet Account for each load/replenishment regardless of the amount of the
replenishment.

7.2 In the event of the Account Holder replenishing an Account the Account
Holder shall provide to the Bank on request the like information as is
provided in Condition 2(1)(c).

8. LOSS OF CARD/DISCLOSURE OF PASS CODE
8.1 If the Account number or the Pass Code (PIN) is disclosed to any other
party, the Account Holder must immediately notify Pay2 Customer Service
Centre. The Account Holder will however be liable in respect of all
Transactions until the Bank has received written notice that an Account or
Pass Code has become known to a third party.

8.2 The Account Holder shall remain fully liable for payment of all
Transactions effected through the use of the Account by any person, whether
with or without the knowledge of the Account Holder, and irrespective of
whether the transactions were authorised by the Account Holder or not.

9. RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT
The Bank may, subject to satisfactory maintenance of the Account,
automatically renew the Account, which has expired or has been lost, on
payment of renewal or replacement fees prescribed by the Bank from time to
time. The Bank will advise details of the renewed or replaced Account at
least one week before the expiry of the present Account.

10. CANCELLATION
10.1 If the Account Holder wishes to cancel the Account, this must be
notified to the Bank in writing.

10.2 Notification of cancellation must be given by the Account Holder to the
Bank at least one month before expiry of the Account. After the Account has
been renewed the Annual Fee becomes non-refundable.

11. REFUND
The Account will only be credited with refund in respect of any Transaction
if the Bank receives a refund voucher or other refund verification
acceptable to it.

12. WITHDRAWAL/TERMINATION
12.1 The Bank reserves the right at any time to withdraw the Account at its
absolute discretion and/or cancel or terminate or suspend the use of the
Account entirely or in respect of specific facilities, or refuse to renew or
replace any Account with or without prior notice.

12.2 The Account Holder may at any time by written notice to the Bank
terminate the Account. All use of the Account prior to the receipt of
termination notice by the Bank will be fully binding on the Cardholder.

12.3 The use of the Account will be terminated by the Bank upon death,
bankruptcy or insolvency of the Account Holder.

12.4 Upon termination of the Agreement either by the Bank or the Account
Holder, any deficit outstanding in the Account, together with any
outstanding amount incurred by the use of the Account but not debited to the
Account and all finance charges and late payment charges, shall become
immediately due and payable to the Bank.

13. VARIATION OF THESE CONDITIONS
13.1 The Bank may from time to time vary these Terms and Conditions
including the Fees and Tariffs by notice in writing or by publication by
such means as the Bank may select. Such variations shall apply from the
effective date specified by the Bank and shall be binding on the Account
Holder.

13.2 If the Account Holder does not accept the variations, the Account
Holder must terminate this Agreement by giving prior written notice to the
Bank

14. NOTICES
14.1 Any notice, demand or any other communication under this Agreement may
be sent by ordinary post to the last known address of the Account Holder and
shall be deemed to have been received by the Account Holder seven (7) days
after the date of posting.

14.2 The Account Holder will advise of any change of address to the Bank,
which will regard as valid the last and most recent address provided by the
Account Holder.

14.3 Any instruction sent by the Account Holder to the Bank by facsimile
shall be considered valid and the Bank may act upon such instruction. The
Bank may use copies of facsimile transmissions as evidence in any Court of
Law.

15. EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY
15.1 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer;

(a) for any loss or damage if the Account is not honoured or accepted by a
merchant, or any other bank or financial institution, for whatever reason;

(b) for any loss or damage due to or arising from any disruption or failure
or defect in communication system or data processing system or transmission
link or anything outside the control of the Bank.

15.2 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services purchased
by the Account Holder by use of the Account. Subject as stated in Condition
5.7 no claim by an Account Holder against a third party may be the subject
of a defense or counterclaim against the Bank

15.3 The Account Holder is required to pay all taxes as required by
applicable law for use of the Account. The Bank assumes that all funds used
by the Account Holder to activate the Account including subsequent
load/replenishment of the Account are after tax income and the Account
Holder will hold the Bank harmless and fully indemnified against any and all
legal issues that arise between tax authorities and the Account Holder.

16. GENERAL
16.1 Proof of Transaction on the Account will not be provided. In case of a
dispute the printout of the Bank's electronic record will be provided, where
applicable as documentary proof of debit, provided the Account Holder makes
a written request within thirty (30) days from the date of the transaction
posted to the Account and pays a fee. The proof of transaction will not be
provided at all for any purpose if the transaction date is over forty five
(45) days.

16.2 The Account Holder agrees that the Bank may at any time disclose and
furnish any information as it deems fit concerning the Account Holder
including, but not limited to, the account of the Account Holder under this
Agreement to the Bank's associates, branches, agents, assignees or other
parties in connection with the administration of the Account and to enable
the Bank to enforce the Account Holder's obligations under this Agreement.

16.3 No failure to exercise and no delay in exercising on the part of the
Bank of any rights, power or privilege under this Agreement shall operate as
a waiver thereof, nor shall any single or partial exercise of any right,
power or privilege preclude the exercise of any other right, power or
privilege. The rights and remedies provided herein are cumulative and not
exclusive of any rights and remedies provided by law.

17. GOVERNING LAW
These Terms and Conditions shall be governed by and construed in accordance
with the laws of England & Wales, except where and to the extent
specifically stated otherwise. The Cardholder hereby submits to the
non-exclusive jurisdiction of the English courts

18. USE OF PERSONAL DATA
The Account Holder agrees to the handling and use of personal data in
accordance with any applicable law.

IMPORTANT - NO CHARGEBACKS
1.The Electronic Wallet is not issued under the franchise of any of the
international card payment systems. It is a condition of use of the Wallet
on the internet sites for which it is available that no Electronic
Transaction may be charged back against those sites. As a result no
chargeback application from an Account Holder relating to an Electronic
Transaction can be entertained or accepted by the Bank

2.Where the Electronic Wallet is loaded or replenished by charge to an
existing MasterCard or Visa Card, or other payment card issued under an
international card payment franchise, the transaction is non-refundable and
no claim for chargeback may be made against the Bank, or any acquirer of
that transaction, by the holder or issuer of the card to which the
transaction is charged."


VISA Electron Card
CONDITIONS OF ISSUE & USE

The following Terms and Conditions are incorporated into and form part of
any agreement by which FEDERAL BANK OF THE MIDDLE EAST LTD (FBME) described
herein as the Bank, agrees to provide a Card to a person applying to the
Bank for the Electronic Wallet.

1. DEFINITIONS

ATM means an automated teller machine belonging to the Bank or other
participating banks or financial institutions, which accept the Card.

BANK means FBME.

CARD means a VISA Electron Card issued by the Bank to the Cardholder.

CARD ACCOUNT means the account opened and maintained by the Bank in a
billing currency for entering all Card Transactions made by the Cardholder,
and for debiting all Charges and crediting any credits actually received in
relation to the Card under these Terms and Conditions.

CARDHOLDER means the person who has been provided with the VISA Electron
Card in whose name the Electronic Wallet Account is held at the Bank.

CARD TRANSACTION means any Withdrawal from an ATM and/or any purchase of
goods or any other facilities and benefits obtained by use of the Card
and/or the Card number and/or the PIN or in any other manner including,
without limitation, mail, telephone or facsimile or e-mail, internet or
other electronically delivered orders or reservations authorized or made by
the Cardholder, regardless of whether such be a sales or cash withdrawal.

CASH WITHDRAWAL means any cash obtained from an ATM by use of the Card.

CHARGES means all amounts charged to a Card by the Cardholder at any time or
charged by the Bank in respect of Fees and Tariffs, including but not
limited to the period after cancellation of the Card, and regardless of
whether a record of charges is signed by the Cardholder

CREDIT BALANCE means the total credit balance account in the Card Account.

DEBIT BALANCE means the total debit balance outstanding in the Card Account
and payable to the Bank according to the Bank's records.

ELECTRONIC WALLET means a virtual purse issued by the Bank and identified by
a unique number which can be accessed electronically at internet sites
authorized by the Bank

FEES AND TARIFFS shall be the fees chargeable to Card Accounts in accordance
with the Bank's published schedule of Fees and Tariffs for the Bank's Cards
as current and applicable from time to time.

VISA ELECTRON CARD means a card issued by the Bank under the VISA franchise
and subject to the regulations of VISA International.

PAYMENT SYSTEM means Visa International.

PIN means the personal identification number issued by the Bank to the
Cardholder(s) for the use at ATM and POS in place of the Signature.

STATEMENT means a statement of the Card Account of each Cardholder.

2. APPLICATION FOR A CARD
2.1 The Card is issued on the basis that the Cardholder has applied to the
Bank for the issuance of an Electronic Wallet and that the signed copy of
the Application Form has been accepted by the Bank. The statement made in
the documents accompanying the Application shall be deemed to apply for the
issuance of the VISA Electron Card to which these Terms & Conditions apply
and the Cardholder warrants them to be complete and correct. Acceptance
and use of the Card by the Cardholder shall be deemed to be an acceptance of
these Terms and Conditions.

3. DELIVERY OF THE CARD AND PIN
3.1 The Card will be sent to the Cardholder at the sole risk and
responsibility of the Cardholder. The Bank shall not in any manner be
responsible if the Card/PIN is lost in the post or not delivered and
misused.

3.2 The Cardholder must sign the Card immediately on receipt of the Card and
must at all times keep it secure and separately from any record of the PIN.
The Cardholder shall not disclose the PIN to any person and shall take all
possible care to prevent discovery of the PIN by any person.

3.3 The Card is and shall always remain the property of the Bank. Its use
may be suspended either temporarily or permanently by the Bank should the
Cardholder fail to perform the obligations specified herein. Upon request
the Card must be returned to the Bank.

3.4 The Cardholder upon receipt of the card will call Customer Services
Center to acknowledge the receipt and activation of the card.

4. USE OF THE CARD
4.1 The Card shall be used only within the Credit Balance of the Card as
established by the Cardholder with the Bank through replenishments to the
Card Account made from time to time and during the validity period of the
Card to obtain the facilities and benefits made available by the Bank from
time to time at its absolute discretion in respect of the use of the Card.

4.2 Where an ATM facility is incorporated in the Card, the Cardholder shall
be responsible for all transactions and the Cardholder hereby authorizes the
Bank to debit the Card Account with the amount of any cash withdrawal and
any Fee charged by the operator of the ATM in accordance with the record of
the transactions. Such record of transactions shall be conclusive and fully
binding on the Cardholder.

4.3 Subject to Condition 12, the Cardholder shall be fully liable to the
Bank for all Card Transactions, including the transactions made with the
PIN, whether with or without the knowledge of the Cardholder.

4.4 The Bank shall have the right at any time, without prior notice and
without giving any reason and without liability towards the Cardholder,
whether the Credit Balance has been exhausted or not, to withdraw and
restrict the right to use the Card or to refuse to authorize any Card
Transaction.

4.5 Purchases, ATM withdrawals and Internet transactions, taking place in a
currency other than the billing currency at merchants or ATM devices
operated abroad, will be converted to the billing currency automatically.
The exchange rate applied to these transactions by the international
associations will be increased by the Bank in accordance with the current
Fees & Tariffs published by the Bank, except for transactions occurring in
the billing currency.

4.6 Use of the Card after its expiration date, or when disputes arise in
accordance with Condition 6.7, or after the Cardholder has cancelled the
Card or elected not to renew the Card in accordance with these Terms and
Conditions, constitutes illegal use of the Card.

5. CASH WITHDRAWAL
5.1 The VISA Electron Card holder may obtain cash in such amount within the
Credit Balance of the Card by the following means:

(a) Using the Card at any ATM of the Bank or of any other worldwide bank or
financial institution displaying VISA Electron logo.

5.2 Cash Withdrawal Fees on each Cash Withdrawal shall be charged and
debited to the Card Account at the rate applicable in the Bank's current
schedule of Fees and Tariffs.

6. THE CARD ACCOUNT
6.1 During the month, the Bank shall debit the Card account with the amounts
of all Card Transactions and Charges and any other liabilities of the
Cardholder arising from the use or misuse of the Card.

6.2 The Bank shall be entitled to treat:

(a) any sales draft transaction record, credit voucher, cash disbursement
record and/or other charge record bearing information derived from the
magnetic strip on the Card as duly completed, and binding on the Cardholder;

(b) The Bank's record of any Card Transaction as conclusive evidence of a
charge properly incurred by the Cardholder to be debited to the Card
Account.

6.3 The Cardholder is liable for all charges incurred on the Card. The Bank
may draw down the monies due to it in respect of Charges on the Cardholder's
Account from the Guarantor of any Guarantee on which it is relying as
Security.

6.4 The Bank will prepare a Statement of the Card Account showing details of
all Card Transactions during the month in question and this will be
accessible via the internet. The Statement of Card Account shall, in the
absence of any written objections within thirty (30) days after the
statement date, be deemed confirmed and correct.

6.5 Transactions posted later than thirty (30) days from the date of the
actual transaction due to delays of merchants or banks acquiring such
transactions do not in any way exonerate the Cardholder from payment of such
transactions.

6.6 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer for

(a) any losses and/or damages.

(b) non-acceptance of the Card by a merchant.

(c) non-receipt of goods and/or services.

(d) any losses and/or damages due to or arising from any disruption or
failure or defect in any communication system or data processing system or
transmission link.

6.7 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services purchased
pursuant to a Card Transaction. No claim by the Cardholder against a third
party may be the subject of a defence or counterclaim against the Bank and
such disputes in no way release the Cardholder from responsibility for all
payments to the Bank.

6.8 The Bank shall not be responsible for non accessibility of the Website
by the Cardholder.

7. PAYMENT
7.1 If the Cardholder's Card account is overdrawn, the Cardholder shall
forthwith, upon demand by the Bank, pay to the Bank the full sum by which
the Card Account is overdrawn, failing which the whole amount outstanding in
the Card Account shall become immediately due and payable, and the Bank may
withdraw or cancel the Card and may call, utilize or realize any security or
guarantee of the Cardholder or have access to funds standing to the credit
of the cardholder on any other account with the Bank to pay the over-limit
usage of the Card.

8. LOAD/REPLENISHMENT
8.1 The Cardholder may replenish the Card in accordance with the
requirements and procedures of the Bank in force at the relevant time, the
minimum/maximum replenishment being set in accordance with the Fees and
Tariffs. A Fixed fee will be deducted from the Cardholder's Card Account
for each replenishment, regardless of the amount of the replenishment.

8.2 In the event of the Cardholder replenishing a Card Account, the
Cardholder shall provide to the Bank on request the like information as is
provided in or which can be called for by the Bank in connection with, the
application for, or replenishment of the Electronic Wallet.

9. LOSS OF CARD/DISCLOSURE OF PIN
9.1 If the Card is lost or stolen, and/or if the PIN or card number is
disclosed to any other party, the Cardholder must immediately notify such
loss to the Bank and to the Police of the country where such loss or theft
or disclosure occurred. Outside normal office hours, loss or theft of the
Card or disclosure of the PIN must be notified to the Customer Service
Centre with contact information. If such notification is given by telephone,
the Cardholder shall also give written confirmation within seven (7) days to
the Bank. The Cardholder will however be liable in respect of all Card
Transactions until written notice has been received by the Bank that a Card
has been lost or stolen and/or that the PIN has become known to a third
party.

9.2 The Cardholder will give the Bank all the information in the Cardholder'
s possession as to the circumstances of the loss or theft of the Card or
disclosure of the PIN and take all steps deemed necessary by the Bank to
assist the recovery of the Card. The Bank may provide the police or any
other authority with any information it considers relevant.

9.3 The Cardholder shall remain fully liable for payment of all Card
Transactions effected through the use of the Card by any person, whether
with or without the knowledge of the Cardholder, and irrespective of whether
the transactions were authorized by the Cardholder or not.

9.4 In the event that the lost Card is recovered by the Cardholder, he shall
not use the Card and shall return the Card cut in half immediately to the
Bank. The Cardholder shall not use the PIN after reporting the disclosure
thereof to the Bank.

9.5 The Bank may in its absolute discretion issue a replacement Card for any
lost or stolen Card or a new PIN on these Terms and Conditions. The Bank
will charge the Cardholder a replacement fee in accordance with the Fees and
Tariffs for replacing a lost/stolen Card.

10. RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT
The Bank may, subject to satisfactory maintenance of the Card Account,
automatically renew and replace any Card which has expired or has been lost,
on payment of renewal or replacement fees prescribed by the Bank from time
to time. The Bank will deliver the renewed or replaced Card at least one
week before the expiry of the present Card to the address notified by the
Cardholder to the Bank.

11. CANCELLATION
11.1 If the Cardholder wishes to cancel his/her Card this must be notified
to the Bank in writing and the Card returned to the Bank.

11.2 Notification of cancellation must be given by the Cardholder to the
Bank at least one month before expiry of the Card. After the Card has been
renewed the Annual Fee becomes non-refundable.

12. REFUND
The Card Account will only be credited with refund in respect of any Card
Transaction if the Bank receives a refund voucher or other refund
verification acceptable to it.

13. WITHDRAWAL/TERMINATION
13.1 The Bank reserves the right at any time to withdraw the Card at its
absolute discretion and/or cancel or terminate or suspend the use of the
Card entirely or in respect of specific facilities, or refuse to renew or
replace any Card with or without prior notice.

13.2 The Cardholder may at any time by written notice to the Bank terminate
the Card Account. Such termination will only be effective on the return to
and receipt by the Bank of all Cards issued for the Card Account. All use of
the Card prior to the receipt of termination notice by the Bank will be
fully binding on the Cardholder.

13.3 The use of the Card will be terminated by the Bank upon death,
bankruptcy or insolvency of the Cardholder.

13.4 The Cardholder must return the Card(s) to the Bank or its authorized
Agent immediately upon termination of this Agreement.

13.5 Upon termination of the Agreement either by the Bank or the Cardholder,
the entire amount outstanding in the Card Account, together with any
outstanding amount incurred by the use of the Card but not debited to the
Card Account and all finance charges and late payment charges, shall become
immediately due and payable to the Bank.

14. VARIATION OF THESE CONDITIONS
14.1 The Bank may from time to time vary these Terms and Conditions
including the Fees and Tariffs by notice in writing or by publication by
such means as the Bank may select. Such variations shall apply from the
effective date specified by the Bank and shall be binding on the Cardholder.

14.2 If the Cardholder keeps or uses the Card after the effective date of
variation, it will be deemed to constitute acceptance of the variations.

14.3 If the Cardholder does not accept the variations, he must terminate
this Agreement by giving prior written notice to the Bank and return the
Card(s) cut in half to the Bank prior to the effective date and settle all
his outstanding liabilities.

15. NOTICES
15.1 Any notice, demand or any other communication under this Agreement may
be sent by ordinary post to the last known address of the Cardholder and
shall be deemed to have been received by the Cardholder seven (7) days after
the date of posting.

15.2 The Cardholder must promptly notify the Bank in writing of any change
in his/her address or employment. The Cardholder will advise of any change
of address and the Bank will regard as valid the last and most recent
address provided by the Cardholder.

15.3 Any instruction sent by the Cardholder to the Bank by facsimile shall
be considered valid and the Bank may act upon such instruction. The Bank may
use copies of facsimile transmissions as evidence in any Court of Law.

16. EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY
16.1 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer:

(a) for any loss or damage if the Card is not honored or accepted by a
merchant, or any other bank or financial institution, or any ATM for
whatever reason;

(b) for any loss or damage due to or arising from any disruption or failure
or defect in any ATM or machine or communication system or data processing
system or transmission link or anything outside the control of the Bank.

16.2 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services
purchased by the Cardholder by use of the Card. Subject as stated in
Condition 6.7 no claim by a Cardholder against a third party may be the
subject of a defence or counterclaim against the Bank.

16.3 The Cardholder is required to pay all taxes as required by applicable
law for use of the Card. The Bank assumes that all funds used by the
Cardholder to activate the Card including subsequent replenishment of the
Card are after tax income and the Cardholder will hold the Bank harmless and
fully indemnified against any and all legal issues that arise between tax
authorities and the Cardholder.

17. GENERAL
17.1 Card transaction vouchers (or sales vouchers) signed by the Cardholder
will not be provided. Only in case of a dispute the photocopy or microfiche
copy will be provided as documentary proof of debit, provided the Cardholder
makes a written request within thirty days from the date of the Statement of
Card Account and pays a fee. Copies of a signed voucher will not be provided
at all for any purpose if the transaction date is over forty five (45) days.

17.2 The Cardholder agrees that the Bank may at any time disclose and
furnish any information as it deems fit concerning the Cardholder including,
but not limited to, the account of the Cardholder under this Agreement to
the Bank's associates, branches, agents, assignees or other parties in
connection with the administration of the Card and to enable the Bank to
enforce the Cardholder's obligations under this Agreement.

17.3 No failure to exercise and no delay in exercising on the part of the
Bank of any rights, power or privilege under this Agreement shall operate as
a waiver thereof, nor shall any single or partial exercise of any right,
power or privilege preclude the exercise of any other right, power or
privilege. The rights and remedies provided herein are cumulative and not
exclusive of any rights and remedies provided by law.

18. GOVERNING LAW
These Terms and Conditions shall be governed by and construed in accordance
with the laws of England & Wales, except where and to the extent
specifically stated otherwise. The Cardholder hereby submits to the
non-exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of England and Wales.

19. USE OF PERSONAL DATA
The Cardholder agrees to the handling of personal data in accordance with
any applicable law.

20. PAYMENT SYSTEM REGULATIONS
These Terms and Conditions are deemed to incorporate and are subject to the
Rules and Regulations of Payment System insofar as they are applicable.




 
 
Rene Larsen (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Rene Larsen


Dato : 27-06-03 13:23

he he idet det er et electron card.. så kan man ikke lave overtræk på dette
kort. Så vidt jeg husker rigtigt.. så det kan kun lade sig gøre at bruge de
penge som står på kontoen...

Så hvis du får dig et kort, så mister kun dine egne penge som er på kortet..
idet der ikke kan laves overtræk på dette typ kort.

Unibank/Nordea har indført Dankort til unge under 18 år med dette elektron
system så man ikke bare kan bruge løs af bankens penge.. kun ens egen penge
meget smart.


"Carsten H" <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3efc2bf7$0$48916$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> Hvis man er med i WGI www.worldgamesinc.com
> Har man mulighed for at få et PAY2 VISA ELECTRON CARD www.pay2.net
>
> Hvad jeg sådan lige kan læse mig til, så hæfter man selv for hvad der
skulle
> blive hævet på ens kor hvis det bliver stjålet.
>
> Hvilken mulighed har den her bank for at indhente sine penge hos kort
> holderen?
> Banken er placeret i Cypern kan jeg se på deres hjemme side
>
> FBME Cyprus
> Federal Bank of the Middle East
> P.O.Box 25566, 1391 Nicosia, CYPRUS.
> http://www.fbme.com
>
>
> FBME Electronic Wallet
> CONDITIONS OF ISSUE & USE
>
> The following Terms and Conditions are incorporated into and form part of
> any agreement by which FEDERAL BANK OF THE MIDDLE EAST LTD (FBME)
described
> herein as the Bank, agrees to provide a Electronic Wallet to a person
> applying to become a holder of the Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> 1. DEFINITIONS
>
> BANK means FBME.
>
> VISA ELECTRON CARD means a card, which is provided to the holder of FBME
> Electronic Wallet, under the separate Terms & Conditions.
>
> ELECTRONIC WALLET ACCOUNT or ACCOUNT means the account opened and
maintained
> by the Bank in a billing currency into which all payments transferred into
> Electronic Wallet are credited and for entering all Electronic
Transactions
> made by the Account Holder, and for debiting all Charges and crediting any
> credits actually received in relation to the Account under these Terms and
> Conditions.
>
> ACCOUNT HOLDER means the person who has applied for the FBME Electronic
> Wallet and in whose name the Electronic Wallet Account is held at the
Bank.
>
> ELECTRONIC TRANSACTION means any transaction at the FBME approved internet
> sites or any other transaction effected by the Account Holder by charge to
> the Electronic Wallet.
>
> ELECTRONIC WALLET means a virtual purse identified by unique number issued
> by the Bank into which funds may be transferred by the Account Holder and
> which can be accessed electronically at the internet sites authorized by
the
> Bank for the purchase of goods and/or services offered by those internet
> sites. Funds transferred into the Electronic Wallet shall be held by the
> Bank on the Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> CHARGES means all amounts charged to an Electronic Wallet by the Account
> holder whether by means of an Electronic Transaction or otherwise, or by
the
> Bank in accordance with these terms and conditions, at any time, including
> but not limited to the period after cancellation of the Account, and
> including application fees, annual fees and all other items included
within
> Fees and Tariffs as defined herein.
>
> CREDIT BALANCE means the total credit balance in the Electronic Wallet
> Account.
>
> DEBIT BALANCE means the total debit balance outstanding in the Electronic
> Wallet Account and payable to the Bank according to the Bank's records.
>
> FEES AND TARIFFS shall be the fees chargeable to Electronic Wallet
Accounts
> in accordance with the Bank's published schedule of Fees and Tariffs for
the
> Bank's Electronic Wallet Account as current and applicable from time to
> time.
>
> STATEMENT means the statement of the Electronic Wallet Account of each
> Account Holder.
>
> 2. APPLICATION FOR AN ELECTRONIC ACCOUNT
> 2.1 Application for an Electronic Wallet Account is accomplished by the
> applicant:
>
> (a) electronically completing the Bank's Application Form and transmitting
> it to the Bank.
>
> (b) printing and signing the Application form and mailing to the Bank or
its
> Agents as directed by the Bank with such documents required by the Bank to
> open Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> (c) providing such further information relating to the applicant or to the
> nature or source of the funds transferred or to be transferred to the
Bank,
> as the Bank may require, having regard to its obligations at law and to
the
> regulations and requirements of such supervisory authorities or
> institutions, to which it may be subject in any relevant jurisdiction.
>
> 2.2 Upon the Bank accepting the application it will issue and transmit to
> the Applicant the Electronic Wallet Account Number applied for as directed
> by the Applicant.
>
> 2.3 The Account Holder shall be deemed to warrant the accuracy and
> completeness of the information provided in the Application Form and that,
> where laws and regulations of any country in which the Applicant is
resident
> or from the country where the Application is made, imposes or implies any
> regulations to the Application or any terms in these Terms and Conditions
> then the Application and these Terms and Conditions, shall be subject to
> such laws or regulations.
>
> 2.4 The Electronic Wallet Account will not be operational until the
> Application Fees and the initial credit to the Electronic Account has been
> received by the Bank, either by charging the existing Credit Card or by
such
> other payments as may be accepted by the Bank from time to time.
>
> 3. DELIVERY OF ELECTRONIC WALLET
> 3.1 The Electronic Wallet Account Number will be transmitted to the
> Applicant online, and in real time upon completion of the Application form
> and the acceptance of the Application by the Bank
>
> 3.2 Upon receipt of the completed Application Form, the Bank will send
VISA
> Electron Card to the Account Holder.
>
> USE OF THE ELECTRONIC WALLET
> 4.1 The Account shall be used within the Credit Balance of the Account as
> established by the Account Holder with the Bank through replenishments to
> the Account made from time to time and during the validity period of the
> Account to obtain the facilities and benefits made available by the Bank
> from time to time at its absolute discretion in respect of the use of the
> Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> 4.2 Account Holder shall be fully liable to the Bank for all Electronic
> Transactions made with or without the knowledge of the Account Holder.
>
> 4.3 The Bank shall have the right at any time, without prior notice and
> without giving any reason and without liability towards the Account
Holder,
> whether the Credit Balance has been exhausted or not, to withdraw and
> restrict the right to use the Account or to refuse to authorise any
> Transaction.
>
> 4.4 Electronic Transactions, taking place in a currency other than the
> billing currency will be converted to the billing currency automatically.
> Conversion will be effected by the Bank under its normal condition of
> Business at the rate ruling at the time.
>
> 4.5 Use of the Electronic Wallet Account after its expiration date, or
when
> disputes arise in accordance with Condition 5.7, or after the Account
Holder
> has cancelled the Account or elected not to renew the Account in
accordance
> with these Terms and Conditions, constitutes illegal use of the Account.
>
> 4.6 Accountholder will be able to load or replenish the Electronic Wallet
> Account by transferring funds from a Credit Card, and by any other such
> method advised to the Account Holder by the Bank from time to time.
>
> 4.7. The Account Holder accepts that the Electronic Wallet may only be
used
> on and may be accepted only by, internet sites designated and/or approved
by
> the Bank from time to time.
>
> 5. THE ELECTRONIC ACCOUNT
> 5.1 The Bank shall debit the account with the amounts of all Electronic
> Transactions and Charges and any other liabilities of the Account Holder
> arising from the use or misuse of the Electronic Wallet.
>
> 5.2 The Bank shall be entitled to treat:
>
> (a) any Electronic Transaction recorded on or charged to the Account as
duly
> completed shall be binding on the Account Holder; and
>
> (b) the Bank's record of any Electronic Transaction as conclusive evidence
> of a Charge properly incurred by the Account Holder to be debited to the
> Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> 5.3 The Account Holder is liable for all Charges incurred on the Account.
If
> applicable the Bank may draw down the monies due to it in respect of
Charges
> on the Account Holder's Account from the Guarantor of any Guarantee on
which
> it is relying as Security.
>
> 5.4 The Bank will prepare a Statement of the Electronic Account showing
> details of all Charges during the month in question and this will be
> accessible via website on the internet. The Statement of Account shall, in
> the absence of any written objections within thirty (30) days from the
> transaction posting date, be deemed confirmed and correct.
>
> 5.5 Transactions posted later than thirty (30) days from the date of the
> actual transaction due to delays of merchants or banks acquiring such
> transactions do not in any way exonerate the Account Holder from payment
of
> such transactions.
>
> 5.6 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Account Holder for:
>
> (a) any losses and/or damages
>
> (b) non-acceptance of the Account by a merchant.
>
> (c) non-receipt of goods and/or services.
>
> (d) any losses and/or damages due to or arising from any disruption or
> failure or defect in any communication system or data processing system or
> transmission link.
>
> 5.7 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services
purchased
> pursuant to an Electronic Transaction. No claim by the Account Holder
> against a third party may be the subject of a claim, defense or
counterclaim
> against the Bank and such disputes in no way release the Account /holder
> from responsibility for all payments to the Bank.
>
> 5.8. The Bank shall be under no obligation to refund any funds standing to
> the credit of the Account. In the event the Account Holder applies to the
> Bank for monies to be refunded, or applied to other card accounts held by
> the Account Holder with the Bank, the Bank will consider complying with
each
> and any such request at its discretion and on an ex gratia basis.
>
> 5.9 The Bank shall not be required to post or otherwise deliver or provide
> any paper Statement of an Electronic Wallet Account.
>
> 6. PAYMENT
> 6.1 If the Account Holder's Electronic Wallet account is overdrawn, the
> Cardholder shall forthwith, upon demand by the Bank, pay to the Bank the
> full sum by which the Account is overdrawn, failing which the whole amount
> outstanding in the Account shall become immediately due and payable, and
the
> Bank may withdraw or cancel the Account. The Bank shall have the right to
> meet any deficit on an Electronic Wallet Account by charging such deficit
to
> the account of any other Card Account or Electronic Wallet Account issued
by
> the Bank and held by the Account Holder. All fees for using the Pay2
service
> will be outlined in your Visa Electron Applicant Pack. Please read this
> carefully.
>
> 7. LOAD/REPLENISHMENT
> 7.1 The Account Holder may replenish the Account in accordance Terms &
> Conditions of the Bank in force from time to time except that the
> minimum/maximum replenishment is set in accordance with the Fees and
> Tariffs. A Fixed fee will be deducted from the Account Holder's Electronic
> Wallet Account for each load/replenishment regardless of the amount of the
> replenishment.
>
> 7.2 In the event of the Account Holder replenishing an Account the Account
> Holder shall provide to the Bank on request the like information as is
> provided in Condition 2(1)(c).
>
> 8. LOSS OF CARD/DISCLOSURE OF PASS CODE
> 8.1 If the Account number or the Pass Code (PIN) is disclosed to any other
> party, the Account Holder must immediately notify Pay2 Customer Service
> Centre. The Account Holder will however be liable in respect of all
> Transactions until the Bank has received written notice that an Account or
> Pass Code has become known to a third party.
>
> 8.2 The Account Holder shall remain fully liable for payment of all
> Transactions effected through the use of the Account by any person,
whether
> with or without the knowledge of the Account Holder, and irrespective of
> whether the transactions were authorised by the Account Holder or not.
>
> 9. RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT
> The Bank may, subject to satisfactory maintenance of the Account,
> automatically renew the Account, which has expired or has been lost, on
> payment of renewal or replacement fees prescribed by the Bank from time to
> time. The Bank will advise details of the renewed or replaced Account at
> least one week before the expiry of the present Account.
>
> 10. CANCELLATION
> 10.1 If the Account Holder wishes to cancel the Account, this must be
> notified to the Bank in writing.
>
> 10.2 Notification of cancellation must be given by the Account Holder to
the
> Bank at least one month before expiry of the Account. After the Account
has
> been renewed the Annual Fee becomes non-refundable.
>
> 11. REFUND
> The Account will only be credited with refund in respect of any
Transaction
> if the Bank receives a refund voucher or other refund verification
> acceptable to it.
>
> 12. WITHDRAWAL/TERMINATION
> 12.1 The Bank reserves the right at any time to withdraw the Account at
its
> absolute discretion and/or cancel or terminate or suspend the use of the
> Account entirely or in respect of specific facilities, or refuse to renew
or
> replace any Account with or without prior notice.
>
> 12.2 The Account Holder may at any time by written notice to the Bank
> terminate the Account. All use of the Account prior to the receipt of
> termination notice by the Bank will be fully binding on the Cardholder.
>
> 12.3 The use of the Account will be terminated by the Bank upon death,
> bankruptcy or insolvency of the Account Holder.
>
> 12.4 Upon termination of the Agreement either by the Bank or the Account
> Holder, any deficit outstanding in the Account, together with any
> outstanding amount incurred by the use of the Account but not debited to
the
> Account and all finance charges and late payment charges, shall become
> immediately due and payable to the Bank.
>
> 13. VARIATION OF THESE CONDITIONS
> 13.1 The Bank may from time to time vary these Terms and Conditions
> including the Fees and Tariffs by notice in writing or by publication by
> such means as the Bank may select. Such variations shall apply from the
> effective date specified by the Bank and shall be binding on the Account
> Holder.
>
> 13.2 If the Account Holder does not accept the variations, the Account
> Holder must terminate this Agreement by giving prior written notice to the
> Bank
>
> 14. NOTICES
> 14.1 Any notice, demand or any other communication under this Agreement
may
> be sent by ordinary post to the last known address of the Account Holder
and
> shall be deemed to have been received by the Account Holder seven (7) days
> after the date of posting.
>
> 14.2 The Account Holder will advise of any change of address to the Bank,
> which will regard as valid the last and most recent address provided by
the
> Account Holder.
>
> 14.3 Any instruction sent by the Account Holder to the Bank by facsimile
> shall be considered valid and the Bank may act upon such instruction. The
> Bank may use copies of facsimile transmissions as evidence in any Court of
> Law.
>
> 15. EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY
> 15.1 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer;
>
> (a) for any loss or damage if the Account is not honoured or accepted by a
> merchant, or any other bank or financial institution, for whatever reason;
>
> (b) for any loss or damage due to or arising from any disruption or
failure
> or defect in communication system or data processing system or
transmission
> link or anything outside the control of the Bank.
>
> 15.2 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services
purchased
> by the Account Holder by use of the Account. Subject as stated in
Condition
> 5.7 no claim by an Account Holder against a third party may be the subject
> of a defense or counterclaim against the Bank
>
> 15.3 The Account Holder is required to pay all taxes as required by
> applicable law for use of the Account. The Bank assumes that all funds
used
> by the Account Holder to activate the Account including subsequent
> load/replenishment of the Account are after tax income and the Account
> Holder will hold the Bank harmless and fully indemnified against any and
all
> legal issues that arise between tax authorities and the Account Holder.
>
> 16. GENERAL
> 16.1 Proof of Transaction on the Account will not be provided. In case of
a
> dispute the printout of the Bank's electronic record will be provided,
where
> applicable as documentary proof of debit, provided the Account Holder
makes
> a written request within thirty (30) days from the date of the transaction
> posted to the Account and pays a fee. The proof of transaction will not be
> provided at all for any purpose if the transaction date is over forty five
> (45) days.
>
> 16.2 The Account Holder agrees that the Bank may at any time disclose and
> furnish any information as it deems fit concerning the Account Holder
> including, but not limited to, the account of the Account Holder under
this
> Agreement to the Bank's associates, branches, agents, assignees or other
> parties in connection with the administration of the Account and to enable
> the Bank to enforce the Account Holder's obligations under this Agreement.
>
> 16.3 No failure to exercise and no delay in exercising on the part of the
> Bank of any rights, power or privilege under this Agreement shall operate
as
> a waiver thereof, nor shall any single or partial exercise of any right,
> power or privilege preclude the exercise of any other right, power or
> privilege. The rights and remedies provided herein are cumulative and not
> exclusive of any rights and remedies provided by law.
>
> 17. GOVERNING LAW
> These Terms and Conditions shall be governed by and construed in
accordance
> with the laws of England & Wales, except where and to the extent
> specifically stated otherwise. The Cardholder hereby submits to the
> non-exclusive jurisdiction of the English courts
>
> 18. USE OF PERSONAL DATA
> The Account Holder agrees to the handling and use of personal data in
> accordance with any applicable law.
>
> IMPORTANT - NO CHARGEBACKS
> 1.The Electronic Wallet is not issued under the franchise of any of the
> international card payment systems. It is a condition of use of the Wallet
> on the internet sites for which it is available that no Electronic
> Transaction may be charged back against those sites. As a result no
> chargeback application from an Account Holder relating to an Electronic
> Transaction can be entertained or accepted by the Bank
>
> 2.Where the Electronic Wallet is loaded or replenished by charge to an
> existing MasterCard or Visa Card, or other payment card issued under an
> international card payment franchise, the transaction is non-refundable
and
> no claim for chargeback may be made against the Bank, or any acquirer of
> that transaction, by the holder or issuer of the card to which the
> transaction is charged."
>
>
> VISA Electron Card
> CONDITIONS OF ISSUE & USE
>
> The following Terms and Conditions are incorporated into and form part of
> any agreement by which FEDERAL BANK OF THE MIDDLE EAST LTD (FBME)
described
> herein as the Bank, agrees to provide a Card to a person applying to the
> Bank for the Electronic Wallet.
>
> 1. DEFINITIONS
>
> ATM means an automated teller machine belonging to the Bank or other
> participating banks or financial institutions, which accept the Card.
>
> BANK means FBME.
>
> CARD means a VISA Electron Card issued by the Bank to the Cardholder.
>
> CARD ACCOUNT means the account opened and maintained by the Bank in a
> billing currency for entering all Card Transactions made by the
Cardholder,
> and for debiting all Charges and crediting any credits actually received
in
> relation to the Card under these Terms and Conditions.
>
> CARDHOLDER means the person who has been provided with the VISA Electron
> Card in whose name the Electronic Wallet Account is held at the Bank.
>
> CARD TRANSACTION means any Withdrawal from an ATM and/or any purchase of
> goods or any other facilities and benefits obtained by use of the Card
> and/or the Card number and/or the PIN or in any other manner including,
> without limitation, mail, telephone or facsimile or e-mail, internet or
> other electronically delivered orders or reservations authorized or made
by
> the Cardholder, regardless of whether such be a sales or cash withdrawal.
>
> CASH WITHDRAWAL means any cash obtained from an ATM by use of the Card.
>
> CHARGES means all amounts charged to a Card by the Cardholder at any time
or
> charged by the Bank in respect of Fees and Tariffs, including but not
> limited to the period after cancellation of the Card, and regardless of
> whether a record of charges is signed by the Cardholder
>
> CREDIT BALANCE means the total credit balance account in the Card Account.
>
> DEBIT BALANCE means the total debit balance outstanding in the Card
Account
> and payable to the Bank according to the Bank's records.
>
> ELECTRONIC WALLET means a virtual purse issued by the Bank and identified
by
> a unique number which can be accessed electronically at internet sites
> authorized by the Bank
>
> FEES AND TARIFFS shall be the fees chargeable to Card Accounts in
accordance
> with the Bank's published schedule of Fees and Tariffs for the Bank's
Cards
> as current and applicable from time to time.
>
> VISA ELECTRON CARD means a card issued by the Bank under the VISA
franchise
> and subject to the regulations of VISA International.
>
> PAYMENT SYSTEM means Visa International.
>
> PIN means the personal identification number issued by the Bank to the
> Cardholder(s) for the use at ATM and POS in place of the Signature.
>
> STATEMENT means a statement of the Card Account of each Cardholder.
>
> 2. APPLICATION FOR A CARD
> 2.1 The Card is issued on the basis that the Cardholder has applied to the
> Bank for the issuance of an Electronic Wallet and that the signed copy of
> the Application Form has been accepted by the Bank. The statement made in
> the documents accompanying the Application shall be deemed to apply for
the
> issuance of the VISA Electron Card to which these Terms & Conditions apply
> and the Cardholder warrants them to be complete and correct. Acceptance
> and use of the Card by the Cardholder shall be deemed to be an acceptance
of
> these Terms and Conditions.
>
> 3. DELIVERY OF THE CARD AND PIN
> 3.1 The Card will be sent to the Cardholder at the sole risk and
> responsibility of the Cardholder. The Bank shall not in any manner be
> responsible if the Card/PIN is lost in the post or not delivered and
> misused.
>
> 3.2 The Cardholder must sign the Card immediately on receipt of the Card
and
> must at all times keep it secure and separately from any record of the
PIN.
> The Cardholder shall not disclose the PIN to any person and shall take all
> possible care to prevent discovery of the PIN by any person.
>
> 3.3 The Card is and shall always remain the property of the Bank. Its use
> may be suspended either temporarily or permanently by the Bank should the
> Cardholder fail to perform the obligations specified herein. Upon request
> the Card must be returned to the Bank.
>
> 3.4 The Cardholder upon receipt of the card will call Customer Services
> Center to acknowledge the receipt and activation of the card.
>
> 4. USE OF THE CARD
> 4.1 The Card shall be used only within the Credit Balance of the Card as
> established by the Cardholder with the Bank through replenishments to the
> Card Account made from time to time and during the validity period of the
> Card to obtain the facilities and benefits made available by the Bank from
> time to time at its absolute discretion in respect of the use of the Card.
>
> 4.2 Where an ATM facility is incorporated in the Card, the Cardholder
shall
> be responsible for all transactions and the Cardholder hereby authorizes
the
> Bank to debit the Card Account with the amount of any cash withdrawal and
> any Fee charged by the operator of the ATM in accordance with the record
of
> the transactions. Such record of transactions shall be conclusive and
fully
> binding on the Cardholder.
>
> 4.3 Subject to Condition 12, the Cardholder shall be fully liable to the
> Bank for all Card Transactions, including the transactions made with the
> PIN, whether with or without the knowledge of the Cardholder.
>
> 4.4 The Bank shall have the right at any time, without prior notice and
> without giving any reason and without liability towards the Cardholder,
> whether the Credit Balance has been exhausted or not, to withdraw and
> restrict the right to use the Card or to refuse to authorize any Card
> Transaction.
>
> 4.5 Purchases, ATM withdrawals and Internet transactions, taking place in
a
> currency other than the billing currency at merchants or ATM devices
> operated abroad, will be converted to the billing currency automatically.
> The exchange rate applied to these transactions by the international
> associations will be increased by the Bank in accordance with the current
> Fees & Tariffs published by the Bank, except for transactions occurring in
> the billing currency.
>
> 4.6 Use of the Card after its expiration date, or when disputes arise in
> accordance with Condition 6.7, or after the Cardholder has cancelled the
> Card or elected not to renew the Card in accordance with these Terms and
> Conditions, constitutes illegal use of the Card.
>
> 5. CASH WITHDRAWAL
> 5.1 The VISA Electron Card holder may obtain cash in such amount within
the
> Credit Balance of the Card by the following means:
>
> (a) Using the Card at any ATM of the Bank or of any other worldwide bank
or
> financial institution displaying VISA Electron logo.
>
> 5.2 Cash Withdrawal Fees on each Cash Withdrawal shall be charged and
> debited to the Card Account at the rate applicable in the Bank's current
> schedule of Fees and Tariffs.
>
> 6. THE CARD ACCOUNT
> 6.1 During the month, the Bank shall debit the Card account with the
amounts
> of all Card Transactions and Charges and any other liabilities of the
> Cardholder arising from the use or misuse of the Card.
>
> 6.2 The Bank shall be entitled to treat:
>
> (a) any sales draft transaction record, credit voucher, cash disbursement
> record and/or other charge record bearing information derived from the
> magnetic strip on the Card as duly completed, and binding on the
Cardholder;
>
> (b) The Bank's record of any Card Transaction as conclusive evidence of a
> charge properly incurred by the Cardholder to be debited to the Card
> Account.
>
> 6.3 The Cardholder is liable for all charges incurred on the Card. The
Bank
> may draw down the monies due to it in respect of Charges on the
Cardholder's
> Account from the Guarantor of any Guarantee on which it is relying as
> Security.
>
> 6.4 The Bank will prepare a Statement of the Card Account showing details
of
> all Card Transactions during the month in question and this will be
> accessible via the internet. The Statement of Card Account shall, in the
> absence of any written objections within thirty (30) days after the
> statement date, be deemed confirmed and correct.
>
> 6.5 Transactions posted later than thirty (30) days from the date of the
> actual transaction due to delays of merchants or banks acquiring such
> transactions do not in any way exonerate the Cardholder from payment of
such
> transactions.
>
> 6.6 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer for
>
> (a) any losses and/or damages.
>
> (b) non-acceptance of the Card by a merchant.
>
> (c) non-receipt of goods and/or services.
>
> (d) any losses and/or damages due to or arising from any disruption
or
> failure or defect in any communication system or data processing system or
> transmission link.
>
> 6.7 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services
purchased
> pursuant to a Card Transaction. No claim by the Cardholder against a
third
> party may be the subject of a defence or counterclaim against the Bank and
> such disputes in no way release the Cardholder from responsibility for all
> payments to the Bank.
>
> 6.8 The Bank shall not be responsible for non accessibility of the Website
> by the Cardholder.
>
> 7. PAYMENT
> 7.1 If the Cardholder's Card account is overdrawn, the Cardholder shall
> forthwith, upon demand by the Bank, pay to the Bank the full sum by which
> the Card Account is overdrawn, failing which the whole amount outstanding
in
> the Card Account shall become immediately due and payable, and the Bank
may
> withdraw or cancel the Card and may call, utilize or realize any security
or
> guarantee of the Cardholder or have access to funds standing to the
credit
> of the cardholder on any other account with the Bank to pay the over-limit
> usage of the Card.
>
> 8. LOAD/REPLENISHMENT
> 8.1 The Cardholder may replenish the Card in accordance with the
> requirements and procedures of the Bank in force at the relevant time, the
> minimum/maximum replenishment being set in accordance with the Fees and
> Tariffs. A Fixed fee will be deducted from the Cardholder's Card Account
> for each replenishment, regardless of the amount of the replenishment.
>
> 8.2 In the event of the Cardholder replenishing a Card Account, the
> Cardholder shall provide to the Bank on request the like information as is
> provided in or which can be called for by the Bank in connection with, the
> application for, or replenishment of the Electronic Wallet.
>
> 9. LOSS OF CARD/DISCLOSURE OF PIN
> 9.1 If the Card is lost or stolen, and/or if the PIN or card number is
> disclosed to any other party, the Cardholder must immediately notify such
> loss to the Bank and to the Police of the country where such loss or theft
> or disclosure occurred. Outside normal office hours, loss or theft of the
> Card or disclosure of the PIN must be notified to the Customer Service
> Centre with contact information. If such notification is given by
telephone,
> the Cardholder shall also give written confirmation within seven (7) days
to
> the Bank. The Cardholder will however be liable in respect of all Card
> Transactions until written notice has been received by the Bank that a
Card
> has been lost or stolen and/or that the PIN has become known to a third
> party.
>
> 9.2 The Cardholder will give the Bank all the information in the
Cardholder'
> s possession as to the circumstances of the loss or theft of the Card or
> disclosure of the PIN and take all steps deemed necessary by the Bank to
> assist the recovery of the Card. The Bank may provide the police or any
> other authority with any information it considers relevant.
>
> 9.3 The Cardholder shall remain fully liable for payment of all Card
> Transactions effected through the use of the Card by any person, whether
> with or without the knowledge of the Cardholder, and irrespective of
whether
> the transactions were authorized by the Cardholder or not.
>
> 9.4 In the event that the lost Card is recovered by the Cardholder, he
shall
> not use the Card and shall return the Card cut in half immediately to the
> Bank. The Cardholder shall not use the PIN after reporting the disclosure
> thereof to the Bank.
>
> 9.5 The Bank may in its absolute discretion issue a replacement Card for
any
> lost or stolen Card or a new PIN on these Terms and Conditions. The Bank
> will charge the Cardholder a replacement fee in accordance with the Fees
and
> Tariffs for replacing a lost/stolen Card.
>
> 10. RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT
> The Bank may, subject to satisfactory maintenance of the Card Account,
> automatically renew and replace any Card which has expired or has been
lost,
> on payment of renewal or replacement fees prescribed by the Bank from time
> to time. The Bank will deliver the renewed or replaced Card at least one
> week before the expiry of the present Card to the address notified by the
> Cardholder to the Bank.
>
> 11. CANCELLATION
> 11.1 If the Cardholder wishes to cancel his/her Card this must be notified
> to the Bank in writing and the Card returned to the Bank.
>
> 11.2 Notification of cancellation must be given by the Cardholder to the
> Bank at least one month before expiry of the Card. After the Card has been
> renewed the Annual Fee becomes non-refundable.
>
> 12. REFUND
> The Card Account will only be credited with refund in respect of any Card
> Transaction if the Bank receives a refund voucher or other refund
> verification acceptable to it.
>
> 13. WITHDRAWAL/TERMINATION
> 13.1 The Bank reserves the right at any time to withdraw the Card at its
> absolute discretion and/or cancel or terminate or suspend the use of the
> Card entirely or in respect of specific facilities, or refuse to renew or
> replace any Card with or without prior notice.
>
> 13.2 The Cardholder may at any time by written notice to the Bank
terminate
> the Card Account. Such termination will only be effective on the return to
> and receipt by the Bank of all Cards issued for the Card Account. All use
of
> the Card prior to the receipt of termination notice by the Bank will be
> fully binding on the Cardholder.
>
> 13.3 The use of the Card will be terminated by the Bank upon death,
> bankruptcy or insolvency of the Cardholder.
>
> 13.4 The Cardholder must return the Card(s) to the Bank or its authorized
> Agent immediately upon termination of this Agreement.
>
> 13.5 Upon termination of the Agreement either by the Bank or the
Cardholder,
> the entire amount outstanding in the Card Account, together with any
> outstanding amount incurred by the use of the Card but not debited to the
> Card Account and all finance charges and late payment charges, shall
become
> immediately due and payable to the Bank.
>
> 14. VARIATION OF THESE CONDITIONS
> 14.1 The Bank may from time to time vary these Terms and Conditions
> including the Fees and Tariffs by notice in writing or by publication by
> such means as the Bank may select. Such variations shall apply from the
> effective date specified by the Bank and shall be binding on the
Cardholder.
>
> 14.2 If the Cardholder keeps or uses the Card after the effective date of
> variation, it will be deemed to constitute acceptance of the variations.
>
> 14.3 If the Cardholder does not accept the variations, he must terminate
> this Agreement by giving prior written notice to the Bank and return the
> Card(s) cut in half to the Bank prior to the effective date and settle all
> his outstanding liabilities.
>
> 15. NOTICES
> 15.1 Any notice, demand or any other communication under this Agreement
may
> be sent by ordinary post to the last known address of the Cardholder and
> shall be deemed to have been received by the Cardholder seven (7) days
after
> the date of posting.
>
> 15.2 The Cardholder must promptly notify the Bank in writing of any change
> in his/her address or employment. The Cardholder will advise of any
change
> of address and the Bank will regard as valid the last and most recent
> address provided by the Cardholder.
>
> 15.3 Any instruction sent by the Cardholder to the Bank by facsimile shall
> be considered valid and the Bank may act upon such instruction. The Bank
may
> use copies of facsimile transmissions as evidence in any Court of Law.
>
> 16. EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY
> 16.1 The Bank shall not in any way be liable to the Customer:
>
> (a) for any loss or damage if the Card is not honored or accepted by a
> merchant, or any other bank or financial institution, or any ATM for
> whatever reason;
>
> (b) for any loss or damage due to or arising from any disruption or
failure
> or defect in any ATM or machine or communication system or data processing
> system or transmission link or anything outside the control of the Bank.
>
> 16.2 The Bank shall in no way be responsible for goods or services
> purchased by the Cardholder by use of the Card. Subject as stated in
> Condition 6.7 no claim by a Cardholder against a third party may be the
> subject of a defence or counterclaim against the Bank.
>
> 16.3 The Cardholder is required to pay all taxes as required by applicable
> law for use of the Card. The Bank assumes that all funds used by the
> Cardholder to activate the Card including subsequent replenishment of the
> Card are after tax income and the Cardholder will hold the Bank harmless
and
> fully indemnified against any and all legal issues that arise between tax
> authorities and the Cardholder.
>
> 17. GENERAL
> 17.1 Card transaction vouchers (or sales vouchers) signed by the
Cardholder
> will not be provided. Only in case of a dispute the photocopy or
microfiche
> copy will be provided as documentary proof of debit, provided the
Cardholder
> makes a written request within thirty days from the date of the Statement
of
> Card Account and pays a fee. Copies of a signed voucher will not be
provided
> at all for any purpose if the transaction date is over forty five (45)
days.
>
> 17.2 The Cardholder agrees that the Bank may at any time disclose and
> furnish any information as it deems fit concerning the Cardholder
including,
> but not limited to, the account of the Cardholder under this Agreement to
> the Bank's associates, branches, agents, assignees or other parties in
> connection with the administration of the Card and to enable the Bank to
> enforce the Cardholder's obligations under this Agreement.
>
> 17.3 No failure to exercise and no delay in exercising on the part of the
> Bank of any rights, power or privilege under this Agreement shall operate
as
> a waiver thereof, nor shall any single or partial exercise of any right,
> power or privilege preclude the exercise of any other right, power or
> privilege. The rights and remedies provided herein are cumulative and not
> exclusive of any rights and remedies provided by law.
>
> 18. GOVERNING LAW
> These Terms and Conditions shall be governed by and construed in
accordance
> with the laws of England & Wales, except where and to the extent
> specifically stated otherwise. The Cardholder hereby submits to the
> non-exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of England and Wales.
>
> 19. USE OF PERSONAL DATA
> The Cardholder agrees to the handling of personal data in accordance with
> any applicable law.
>
> 20. PAYMENT SYSTEM REGULATIONS
> These Terms and Conditions are deemed to incorporate and are subject to
the
> Rules and Regulations of Payment System insofar as they are applicable.
>
>
>



Jeppe Seidelin Dam (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Jeppe Seidelin Dam


Dato : 27-06-03 13:52

Rene Larsen skrev:
> he he
[SNIP 750 linier]

Var det virkelig nødvendigt at citere samtlige 750 linier?

Læs lidt op på citatteknikken, tak.
http://www.usenet.dk/netikette/citatteknik.html

mvh
Jeppe Seidelin Dam



Carsten H (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 27-06-03 13:59


"Jeppe Seidelin Dam" <jeppedam@mailme.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bdhel4$qcv$1@sunsite.dk...
> Rene Larsen skrev:
> > he he
> [SNIP 750 linier]
>
> Var det virkelig nødvendigt at citere samtlige 750 linier?

Var det virkeligt nødvendigt at du også skulle kommenter det, som sagt så er
det ikke muligt at linke til det sted hvor det står da det er bag lås og
slå!
Ok!

Svar nu bare på hvad jeg spørg om hvis du/i kan i stedet for at kommentere,
jeg ved godt at det er det de fleste kan lide men det kan jeg ikke bruge til
noget!

Carsten



Martin Christiansen (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Christiansen


Dato : 27-06-03 14:15


"Carsten H" <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3efc3f70$0$48896$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

> Svar nu bare på hvad jeg spørg om hvis du/i kan i stedet for at
kommentere,
> jeg ved godt at det er det de fleste kan lide men det kan jeg ikke bruge
til
> noget!

Se nu lige hvem han svarer til!!




Carsten H (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 27-06-03 14:20


"Martin Christiansen" <mc@city.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3efc435d$0$83055$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>
> Se nu lige hvem han svarer til!!

Ok!
Undskyld Jeppe!

Carsten



Jeppe Seidelin Dam (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Jeppe Seidelin Dam


Dato : 27-06-03 15:31

Carsten H skrev:
> Svar nu bare på hvad jeg spørg om hvis du/i kan i stedet for at
> kommentere, jeg ved godt at det er det de fleste kan lide men det kan
> jeg ikke bruge til noget!

Jeg tror ikke, at der er nogen, der gide gnave sig igennem de betingelser
for dig.

Få et pålideligt betalingskort i stedet - jeg synes det ser lidt
halvskummelt ud.

mvh
Jeppe Seidelin Dam



Carsten H (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 27-06-03 19:43


"Jeppe Seidelin Dam" <jeppedam@mailme.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bdhked$deo$1@sunsite.dk...
>
> Jeg tror ikke, at der er nogen, der gide gnave sig igennem de betingelser
> for dig.

Øv!

> Få et pålideligt betalingskort i stedet - jeg synes det ser lidt
> halvskummelt ud.

Ja det er det jeg vil finde ud af og om jeg ret mæssig kan holde ansvarlig
for det der vil blive hævet på sådan et kort hvis det bliver stjålet!

Jeg skal nemlig sige dig at jeg har fået at vide fra andre der har fået
dette kort at PIN kode bliver sendt i samme konvolut som selve VISA ELECTRON
Kortet.

For at fp korted har man ikke skrevet under på noget, kun udfyldt en
formular med navn og adresse samt en kopi af ens kørekort eller pas.

Synes ikke det lyder specielt sikkert.

Hvor meget information kan en bank på Cypern hente ud fra en kørekort nr.
eller pas nr. ?
Er der nogen der ved det?

Carsten



Carsten H (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 27-06-03 14:04


"Rene Larsen" <rene.larsenFJERNXXXDETTE@pc.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3efc3735$0$24619$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk...
>
> he he idet det er et electron card.. så kan man ikke lave overtræk på
dette
> kort. Så vidt jeg husker rigtigt.. så det kan kun lade sig gøre at bruge
de
> penge som står på kontoen...

Ja det mener jeg også, sådan er det i Danmark men jeg er ikke sikker på det
er sådan i udlandet!


> Så hvis du får dig et kort, så mister kun dine egne penge som er på
kortet..
> idet der ikke kan laves overtræk på dette typ kort.

Der står i Tems & Conditions

6. PAYMENT
6.1 If the Account Holder's Electronic Wallet account is overdrawn, the
Cardholder shall forthwith, upon demand by the Bank, pay to the Bank the
full sum by which the Account is overdrawn, failing which the whole amount
outstanding in the Account shall become immediately due and payable, and the
Bank may withdraw or cancel the Account. The Bank shall have the right to
meet any deficit on an Electronic Wallet Account by charging such deficit to
the account of any other Card Account or Electronic Wallet Account issued by
the Bank and held by the Account Holder. All fees for using the Pay2 service
will be outlined in your Visa Electron Applicant Pack. Please read this
carefully.

Så det virker godt som det kan overtrækkes!


> Unibank/Nordea har indført Dankort til unge under 18 år med dette elektron
> system så man ikke bare kan bruge løs af bankens penge.. kun ens egen
penge
> meget smart.

Ja det kender jeg godt, men det ser som sagt ikke ud til at være det samme
her.

Carsten



Thunderbird[7100] (27-06-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Thunderbird[7100]


Dato : 27-06-03 14:33

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:23:23 +0200, "Rene Larsen"
<rene.larsenFJERNXXXDETTE@pc.dk> wrote:

>he he idet det er et electron card.. så kan man ikke lave overtræk på dette
>kort. Så vidt jeg husker rigtigt.. så det kan kun lade sig gøre at bruge de
>penge som står på kontoen...
>
>Så hvis du får dig et kort, så mister kun dine egne penge som er på kortet..
>idet der ikke kan laves overtræk på dette typ kort.
>
>Unibank/Nordea har indført Dankort til unge under 18 år med dette elektron
>system så man ikke bare kan bruge løs af bankens penge.. kun ens egen penge
>meget smart.

Danske bank har et kort magen til
--
Mvh
Flemming Jacobsen
(Mulig mangel på mellemrum skyldes defekt tastatur)

jacker211 (13-07-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : jacker211


Dato : 13-07-03 12:02

Hold jer langt langt væk fra wgi der er det rene fup!!!!!!! jeg har nu
prøvet af få mine penge overført til min bankkonto i 2 mdr. og har ikke
set en klink og nu vil de heller ikke besvare mine spørgsmål længere.
Pas på det er et firma uden den nødvændige kapital til at udbetale sine
medlemmer sine penge tilbage igen

--
Leveret af:
http://www.kandu.dk/
"Vejen til en hurtig løsning"


Carsten H (13-07-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 13-07-03 12:27


"jacker211" <jacker211.news@kandu.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3f113cf7$0$48906$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> Hold jer langt langt væk fra wgi der er det rene fup!!!!!!! jeg har nu
> prøvet af få mine penge overført til min bankkonto i 2 mdr. og har ikke
> set en klink og nu vil de heller ikke besvare mine spørgsmål længere.
> Pas på det er et firma uden den nødvændige kapital til at udbetale sine
> medlemmer sine penge tilbage igen
>
> --
> Leveret af:
> http://www.kandu.dk/
> "Vejen til en hurtig løsning"

Kan du ikke fortælle lidt om det over i dk.erhverv.direkte-salg ?
Jeg har nemlig prøvet at fortælle det til flere af dem der over, uden den
store effekt, men måske hvis de høre det fra en anden person at det begynder
at gå op for dem!

Men jeg ved godt hvad deres svar vil være!
At nu er der kommet Pay2 Debit kort der skulle gøre det nemmer og hurtigere
at få sine penge!

Det koster bare 1700 kr. at få det Debit kort!

Carsten



Morten DH (13-07-2003)
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Fra : Morten DH


Dato : 13-07-03 18:12

"Carsten H" <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3f1141e9$0$48892$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> Kan du ikke fortælle lidt om det over i dk.erhverv.direkte-salg ?
> Jeg har nemlig prøvet at fortælle det til flere af dem der over, uden den
> store effekt, men måske hvis de høre det fra en anden person at det
begynder
> at gå op for dem!

Carsten, har du aldrig fået dine penge og hvor længe har du ventet på dem
efterhånden? Jeg kender flere som har venter over 2 månder og intet hørt fra
support (hvilket er komplet latterligt); men har endnu ikke hørt om nogen
der aldrig har fået deres penge...

> Men jeg ved godt hvad deres svar vil være!
> At nu er der kommet Pay2 Debit kort der skulle gøre det nemmer og
hurtigere
> at få sine penge!

He he tænker du på spinner



Carsten H (13-07-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 13-07-03 18:28


"Morten DH" <morten@FJERNdrejoe.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3f1192c4$0$1683$ba624c82@nntp05.dk.telia.net...
>
> Carsten, har du aldrig fået dine penge og hvor længe har du ventet på dem
> efterhånden? Jeg kender flere som har venter over 2 månder og intet hørt
fra
> support (hvilket er komplet latterligt); men har endnu ikke hørt om nogen
> der aldrig har fået deres penge...

Ærligtalt, så har jeg aldrig forsøgt at få dem udbetalt.
Jeg har hørt fra flere at de ikke kan få deres penge og da jeg selv oplevet
at penge der var hævet for meget på mit VISA aldrig kom tilbage og deres
Support aldrig vente tilbage på min henvendelse så jeg til mig selv FUCK
DEM!

De penge jeg havet i aktier solgte jeg for at få det der skide Pay2 kort og
så brugte jeg det sidste på deres Casino.

Nu har jeg 32 aktier tilbage og de har en for lille værdi til at jeg kunne
få dem udbetalt!

Men jeg hyler ikke over pengene, det var surt men jeg havet indstillet mig
på at jeg kunne tabe det hele, så det er hvad jeg kalder lære penge.

Heldigvis har jeg tjent det hjem hos GiiCorp!


> > Men jeg ved godt hvad deres svar vil være!
> > At nu er der kommet Pay2 Debit kort der skulle gøre det nemmer og
> hurtigere
> > at få sine penge!
>
> He he tænker du på spinner

Ja ham og de andre hjernevasket idioter!
Spørgsmålet er så bare, hvornår kan man sætte penge ind på det kort?

Carsten




Morten DH (13-07-2003)
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Fra : Morten DH


Dato : 13-07-03 21:30

"Carsten H" <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3f11967e$0$48899$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> Ja ham og de andre hjernevasket idioter!

Tja en ting er at man tror på det hele efter man gang på gang bliver lovet
en masse som ikke bliver overholdt, jeg har selv beholdt mine aktier og
håber på det vender snart - og jeg forsvarer sågar dele af konceptet fra tid
til anden... men nogle folk er fuldstændig forblændede :-/



Carsten H (14-07-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Carsten H


Dato : 14-07-03 01:40


"Morten DH" <morten@FJERNdrejoe.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3f11c15a$0$2686$ba624c82@nntp03.dk.telia.net...
> "Carsten H" <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:3f11967e$0$48899$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> > Ja ham og de andre hjernevasket idioter!
>
> Tja en ting er at man tror på det hele efter man gang på gang bliver lovet
> en masse som ikke bliver overholdt, jeg har selv beholdt mine aktier og
> håber på det vender snart - og jeg forsvarer sågar dele af konceptet fra
tid
> til anden... men nogle folk er fuldstændig forblændede :-/

Ja det har du helt ret i, jeg forsvare også WGI på nogen punkter, mest når
der er folk der kritisere det udfra en holdning de har grebet ude i den blå
luft!

Jeg har fuldstændig mistede tilliden til WGI, så selv om mine få aktier
skulle stige helt vildt, så vil jeg aldrig sponsere nogen ind i WGI mere!

Carsten



Michael Holm (13-08-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Holm


Dato : 13-08-03 21:59

Carsten H <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev:
>
>"Morten DH" <morten@FJERNdrejoe.dk>
>skrev i en meddelelse
>news:3f1192c4$0$1683$ba624c82@nntp05.
>dk.telia.net...
>Ærligtalt, så har jeg aldrig forsøgt
>at få dem udbetalt.

Nej man høre jo så meget, ik? SERIØST
Carsten!tsk tsk!

>Jeg har hørt fra flere at de ikke kan
>få deres penge

Og de fleste har bare glemt at spørge
deres sponsor hvad ekspeditionstiden er
på en Wire Transfer.

og da jeg selv oplevet
>at penge der var hævet for meget på
>mit VISA aldrig kom tilbage og deres
>Support aldrig vente tilbage på min
>henvendelse så jeg til mig selv FUCK
>DEM!

Fordi at du skal skrive en mail til
Webtrade - IKKE til WGI. Skriv til
webtrade@worldgamesinc.com så går
det dig sikkert en del bedre.

BTW. du kan også få banken til at
spære den overførsel der er for
meget indenfor tre dage! Sådan er
Visa kortet jo bygget op!

>
>De penge jeg havet i aktier solgte
>jeg for at få det der skide Pay2 kort og
>så brugte jeg det sidste på deres Casino.

og nu er du vel bitter over at du ikke vandt? :P

>Nu har jeg 32 aktier tilbage og de
>har en for lille værdi til at jeg kunne
>få dem udbetalt!

Et godt råd! gem dem!

>Men jeg hyler ikke over pengene, det
>var surt men jeg havet indstillet mig
>på at jeg kunne tabe det hele, så det
>er hvad jeg kalder lære penge.
>
>Heldigvis har jeg tjent det hjem hos GiiCorp!

Godt for dig:)Held og lykke med det iøvrigt :)

>
>
>> > Men jeg ved godt hvad deres svar vil være!
>> > At nu er der kommet Pay2 Debit
>> >kort der skulle gøre det nemmer og
>> hurtigere
>> > at få sine penge!
>>
næ.....for det her har jo intet med Pay2 at gøre!
Det drejer sig om at fejlhåndtere Wire Transfer!
>
>Ja ham og de andre hjernevasket idioter!
>Spørgsmålet er så bare, hvornår kan
>man sætte penge ind på det kort?
>

Ehmmm......casio gevinster / provision kan du
sætte ind med det samme - har jeg da gjort et
par gange nu og det virker fint. Penge fra
personlig konto kan indsættes i løbet af sep.
når den sidste software er leveret og installeret
fra Pay2. Så sælger du vel de sidste aktier - selvom
jeg lige har rådet dig til noget andet hehe

/Michael
-------
http://titan.person.dk - For dig der lader dine penge
arbejde for dig!
http://rim.person.dk - Residual Income Magazine!


Michael Holm (13-08-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Holm


Dato : 13-08-03 21:50

Carsten H <carsten@NOSPAMdigitalforum.dk> skrev:
>
>"jacker211" <jacker211.news@kandu.dk>
>skrev i en meddelelse
>news:3f113cf7$0$48906$edfadb0f@dtext0
>2.news.tele.dk...
>> Hold jer langt langt væk fra wgi
>>der er det rene fup!!!!!!! jeg har nu
>> prøvet af få mine penge overført
>>til min bankkonto i 2 mdr. og har ikke
>> set en klink og nu vil de heller
>>ikke besvare mine spørgsmål længere.
>> Pas på det er et firma uden den
>>nødvændige kapital til at udbetale sine
>> medlemmer sine penge tilbage igen
>>
>> --
>> Leveret af:
>> http://www.kandu.dk/
>> "Vejen til en hurtig løsning"
>
>Kan du ikke fortælle lidt om det over
>i dk.erhverv.direkte-salg ?
>Jeg har nemlig prøvet at fortælle det
>til flere af dem der over, uden den
>store effekt, men måske hvis de høre
>det fra en anden person at det begynder
>at gå op for dem!
>
>Men jeg ved godt hvad deres svar vil være!
>At nu er der kommet Pay2 Debit kort
>der skulle gøre det nemmer og hurtigere
>at få sine penge!
>
>Det koster bare 1700 kr. at få det
>Debit kort!
>
>Carsten

1160 for det lille 298 for det lille bitte men
det er jo så en helt anden sag :P

/Michael
-------
http://titan.person.dk - For dig der lader dine penge
arbejde for dig!
http://rim.person.dk - Residual Income Magazine!


Erik G. Christensen (18-07-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Erik G. Christensen


Dato : 18-07-03 18:54

jacker211 wrote:

> --
> Leveret af:
> http://www.kandu.dk/
> "Vejen til en hurtig løsning"

Og blot til orientering,
kandu.dk er dem der ikke selv kan finde vej til news,
og tror at det koster, for at få svar,

selv om jeg er enig.

--
Med venlig hilsen Erik G. Christensen
Rådgiver for flere danske svinebønder.
Søhøjlandets Landboforening tlf 8682 2666

Michael Holm (13-08-2003)
Kommentar
Fra : Michael Holm


Dato : 13-08-03 21:47

jacker211 <jacker211.news@kandu.dk> skrev:
>Hold jer langt langt væk fra wgi
>der er det rene fup!!!!!!! jeg har nu
>prøvet af få mine penge overført
>til min bankkonto i 2 mdr. og har ikke
>set en klink og nu vil de heller
>ikke besvare mine spørgsmål længere.
>Pas på det er et firma uden den
>nødvændige kapital til at udbetale sine
>medlemmer sine penge tilbage igen
>

Hmm...sikker på at du har udfyldt din forespørgsel
om at få penge ud korrekt? Du huskede at skrive på
engelsk da du rykkede? også burde din sponsor have fortalt
dig at der er 40-80 dages ekspeditionstid på en wire transfer.
Blot en af grundende til at Visa kortet er så genialt!

Men ehmm...hvis du stadigt ikke har set dine penge
efter max 80 dage (tror jeg nu du har) så er du da
velkommen til at skrive en mail så kan det være jeg
kan hjælpe dig nu din sponsor åbenbart ikke vil!

/Michael
-------
http://titan.person.dk - For dig der lader dine penge
arbejde for dig!
http://rim.person.dk - Residual Income Magazine!


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