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General tips on How to debate a creationis~
Fra : Sømand1


Dato : 30-03-11 20:19

Hilarious stuff...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How to Debate a Creationist
General Tips

#1
If you were on your high school or university debate team, you
might have become accustomed to your opponent following certain
rules. Do not expect that against a creationist; many of
them do not respect the idea of debating at all; they are trying to
convert you, not debate with you.


#2
There are generally three types of creationist: the
garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
(most rarely) the religious fanatic who has actually put serious
effort into studying the issue. Of those, there is no point
debating the first type; fanatics do not recognize the validity of
science or logic at all, and an argument will probably devolve into
him reciting the Bible and trying to convert you. The second is the
easiest to debate; if you can show how the arguments he's heard
are logically flawed, there is a fair chance of actually changing
his mind [ED: in other words, to convert him ].
The third type is the trickiest to debate because they
are usually quite experienced, and they tend to have a large
"bag of tricks" which they can use against you (expect
philosophical attacks against the scientific method, heavy reliance
upon the "complexity = design" fallacy, arguments copied
from ICR and other creationist websites, and liberal use of
specific names, dates, and places in order to lend more rhetorical
credibility to their arguments).

read more at: http://www.creationtheory.org/Arguments/DebatingTips.xhtml

 
 
Patruljen (30-03-2011)
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Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 30-03-11 15:02

On 30 Mar., 21:19, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> Hilarious stuff...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> ---------------------
> How to Debate a Creationist
> General Tips
>
> #1
> If you were on your high school or university debate team, you
> might have become accustomed to your opponent following certain
> rules. Do not expect that against a creationist; many of
> them do not respect the idea of debating at all; they are trying to
> convert you, not debate with you.
>
> #2
> There are generally three types of creationist: the
> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
> (most rarely) the religious fanatic

Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel

Sømand1 (31-03-2011)
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Fra : Sømand1


Dato : 31-03-11 09:14


"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> #2
>> There are generally three types of creationist: the
>> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
>> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
>> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>
> Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>
Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med creationister.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related


Patruljen (31-03-2011)
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Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 31-03-11 05:52

On 31 Mar., 10:14, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> #2
> >> There are generally three types of creationist: the
> >> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
> >> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
> >> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>
> > Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>
> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med creationister.http://www..youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related

Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
årsagen er manglende mod :)
Hørte du ikke hvad manden fortalte?


Sømand1 (31-03-2011)
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Fra : Sømand1


Dato : 31-03-11 13:32


"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:19717163-bc99-472b-ba37-d051e39410df@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On 31 Mar., 10:14, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> #2
>> >> There are generally three types of creationist: the
>> >> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
>> >> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
>> >> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>>
>> > Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>>
>> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
>> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>
> Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
> årsagen er manglende mod :)
>
Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.

> Hørte du ikke hvad manden fortalte?
>
jo.


Patruljen (31-03-2011)
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Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 31-03-11 06:51

On 31 Mar., 14:32, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> news:19717163-bc99-472b-ba37-d051e39410df@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 31 Mar., 10:14, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> >>news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com....
>
> >> >> #2
> >> >> There are generally three types of creationist: the
> >> >> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
> >> >> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
> >> >> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>
> >> > Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>
> >> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
> >> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>
> > Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
> > årsagen er manglende mod :)
>
> Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.

Men du ved bedre :)

> > Hørte du ikke hvad manden fortalte?
>
> jo.-

Godt -

Sømand1 (01-04-2011)
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Fra : Sømand1


Dato : 01-04-11 08:42


"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:7e4530c1-2251-43b3-9615-1dcc11510c3e@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On 31 Mar., 14:32, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
>> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:19717163-bc99-472b-ba37-d051e39410df@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 31 Mar., 10:14, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
>> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> #2
>> >> >> There are generally three types of creationist: the
>> >> >> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
>> >> >> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
>> >> >> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>>
>> >> > Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
>> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>>
>> >> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
>> >> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>>
>> > Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
>> > årsagen er manglende mod :)
>>
>> Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.
>
> Men du ved bedre :)
>
....bedre end hvem?

>> > Hørte du ikke hvad manden fortalte?
>>
>> jo.-
>
> Godt -




Patruljen (01-04-2011)
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Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 01-04-11 01:58

On 1 Apr., 09:42, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> news:7e4530c1-2251-43b3-9615-1dcc11510c3e@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 31 Mar., 14:32, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> >>news:19717163-bc99-472b-ba37-d051e39410df@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com....
>
> >> > On 31 Mar., 10:14, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> >> >> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:781ecf28-e120-4962-aa9a-3f4266f62d9c@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> >> #2
> >> >> >> There are generally three types of creationist: the
> >> >> >> garden-variety scientifically ignorant religious fanatic, the
> >> >> >> religious moderate who has been swayed by religious propaganda, and
> >> >> >> (most rarely) the religious fanatic
>
> >> >> > Why Richard Dawkins Doesn't Debate Creationists
> >> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes&feature=fvwrel
>
> >> >> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
> >> >> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>
> >> > Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
> >> > årsagen er manglende mod :)
>
> >> Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.
>
> > Men du ved bedre :)
>
> ...bedre end hvem?

Du ved bedre end Dawkins. Så meget bedre at du ikke behøver tage hans
ord for gode varer -
Med andre ord: Du påstår blot at Dawkins lyver.

> >> > Hørte du ikke hvad manden fortalte?
>
> >> jo.-
>
> > Godt -

Sømand1 (01-04-2011)
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Fra : Sømand1


Dato : 01-04-11 09:32


"Patruljen" <Patruljen@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:d9628409-2a51-4061-93f0-1501a6eb1fd9@w7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> >> >> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
>> >> >> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>>
>> >> > Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
>> >> > årsagen er manglende mod :)
>>
>> >> Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.
>>
>> > Men du ved bedre :)
>>
>> ...bedre end hvem?
>
> Du ved bedre end Dawkins. Så meget bedre at du ikke behøver tage hans
> ord for gode varer -
> Med andre ord: Du påstår blot at Dawkins lyver.
>
Selvfølgelig ved Dawkins besked.



Patruljen (01-04-2011)
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Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 01-04-11 02:48

On 1 Apr., 10:31, Sømand1 <someb...@yahoo.beer> wrote:
> "Patruljen" <Patrul...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
>
> news:d9628409-2a51-4061-93f0-1501a6eb1fd9@w7g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> >> Det er korrekt, Dawkins tør ikke debattere med
> >> >> >> creationister.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFamS4RGE_A&feature=related
>
> >> >> > Dawkins afleverede netop en forklaring. Han fortalte vist ikke at
> >> >> > årsagen er manglende mod :)
>
> >> >> Nej, det ville ikke være godt for hans virke at fortælle offentligt.
>
> >> > Men du ved bedre :)
>
> >> ...bedre end hvem?
>
> > Du ved bedre end Dawkins. Så meget bedre at du ikke behøver tage hans
> > ord for gode varer -
> > Med andre ord: Du påstår blot at Dawkins lyver.
>
> Selvfølgelig ved Dawkins besked.-

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