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SF: Hamas er ikke en terrororganisation
Fra : Nicky


Dato : 17-06-10 07:54

Fra Uriasposten:

Morten Messerschmidt på sin JP blog - SF ønsker Hamas slettet fra
terrorliste.

"Forleden deltog jeg i overrækkelsen af Ekstra Bladets Victor-pris, som i år
blev tildelt to iranske twittere, Mehdi Saharkhiz og Kelly Golnoush
Niknejad. Som et led i uddelingen havde avisen arrangeret en debat mellem
undertegnede og Ida Auken (SF). Frejdigt erklærede Ida under debatten, at
det nu er officiel SF-politik, at Hamas ikke skal være på EU's terrorliste.

Med den undren, som man i al respekt for sine modstandere må have, spurgte
jeg efter mødet, om det virkelig var rigtigt eller en lapsus. Her bedyrede
Ida højhelligt, at det var en melding, hun just inden mødet havde modtaget
fra sin udenrigsordfører, Holger K. Nielsen. Det er altså et officielt
SF-synspunkt, at Hamas ikke er en terrororganisation.

http://www.uriasposten.net/

Lidt statistik over Hamas tidligere ikke-terror-relaterede aktiviteter:

August 28, 2005: A suicide bombing outside the Central Bus Station in
Beersheba severly injured two security guards who stopped the bomber from
entering the bus station.
January 13, 2005: Six Israelis were killed and five other civilians were
wounded in a double suicide bombing at the Karni crossing between Israel and
the Gaza Strip. The two suicide bombers used a very large explosive device
to blast through a defensive wall that separates the Israeli and Palestinian
sides at the crossing. Following the blast, the bombers crossed into the
Israeli side, carrying explosives on their bodies, which they detonated.
August 28, 2004: Sixteen people, including a 3 year old, were killed and
about 100 injured when two buses in Beersheba were attacked within minutes
of each other by suicide bombers.
June 28, 2004: A Kassam rocket fired by Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip
struck near a nursery school in the northern Negev town of Sderot, killing
an Israeli man and a 4-year old Israeli child.
April 17, 2004: A border policeman was killed and three others wounded when
a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up at the Erez Crossing in Gaza.
March 14, 2004: Ten people were killed and 16 wounded in a double suicide
bombing in the area of the Ashdod Port. Hamas and Fatah claimed
responsibility for the attack.
January 14, 2004: A female suicide bomber killed four people and wounded 20
at the Erez Crossing in the Gaza Strip. Hamas and the Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs
Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.
October 15, 2003: Three Americans were killed and one wounded at the Beit
Hanoun junction in the Gaza Strip when a massive bomb demolished an
armor-plated jeep in a convoy carrying U.S. diplomats and CIA personnel.
Both the militant Islamic Jihad and Hamas movements denied responsibility
for the attack.
September 9, 2003: Hamas claimed responsibility for two suicide bombings,
the first at an entrance to the Tzrifin army base near Rishon Lezion and the
second at Café Hillel in the German colony neighborhood of Jerusalem, which
killed a total of 15 people and wounded at least 80.
August 19, 2003: Hamas and Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the
suicide bombing of a bus in Jerusalem killing at least 18 people and
wounding nearly 100.
August 12, 2003: Suicide bombers killed two Israelis and wounded more than a
dozen people in two attacks within a half hour of each other, one at a
shopping mall in the Tel Aviv suburb of Rosh Ha'ayin and the other at the
entrance of the West Bank town of Ariel. The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed
responsibility for the Rosh Ha'ayin bombing and Hamas claimed to have
carried out the Ariel attack.
June 20, 2003: An Israeli motorist was shot dead and three of his passengers
were wounded when their car was fired upon by Palestinian terrorists near
Ofra, north of Ramallah. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
June 11, 2003: Sixteen people were killed and more than 80 wounded when a
suicide bomber blew up a Jerusalem city bus during the afternoon rush hour.
The bomber was disguised as an ultra-orthodox Jew. Hamas claimed
responsibility for the attack.
May 19, 2003: A Palestinian suicide bomber on a bicycle attacked an Israeli
checkpoint on the Gaza Strip, wounding three Israeli soldiers. Hamas claimed
responsibility.
May 18, 2003: Seven people were killed and more than 20 wounded when a
suicide bomber blew up a Jerusalem city bus at the start of the Israeli work
week. The bomber was disguised as an ultra-orthodox Jew. Soon after, a
suicide bomber carrying explosives and dressed in the garb of an
ultra-orthodox Jew was stopped at a roadblock. The Palestinian detonated his
explosives, killing only himself. Hamas claimed responsibility in both
attacks.
May 17, 2003: A pregnant Israeli woman and her husband were killed when a
suicide bomber detonated himself next to them in a public square in Hebron.
Hamas claimed responsibility.
April 30, 2003: Three people were killed and dozens wounded in a suicide
bombing at a beachfront pub in Tel Aviv. The Fatah Tanzim and Hamas claimed
responsibility for the attack, carried out as a joint operation.
March 7, 2003: Two Israelis were killed and five were wounded when armed
terrorists infiltrated the community of Kiryat Arba and attacked during
Shabbat. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 5, 2003: Sixteen people were killed and more than 30 wounded when a
terrorist detonated a powerful bomb on a bus en route to Haifa University.
Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
January 5, 2003: Twenty two people were killed and about 120 wounded in a
double suicide bombing near the old Central Bus Station in Tel Aviv. The Al
Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Islamic Jihad and Hamas all claimed responsibility
for the attacks.
November 21, 2002: Eleven people were killed and 47 injured when a
Palestinian suicide bomber exploded on a bus filled with passengers,
including schoolchildren, in the Kiryat Menahem neighborhood in Jerusalem.
The bus was traveling toward the center of the city during the morning rush
hour. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
October 27, 2002: Two Israeli police officers and a soldier were killed, and
20 bystanders were wounded in a suicide bombing at a gas station near the
settlement of Ariel in the West Bank. The two officers and soldier were
killed while trying to prevent the terrorist from detonating the bomb. Hamas
and the Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.
September 19, 2002: Six people were killed and 60 wounded when a terrorist
detonated a bomb on one of Tel Aviv's busiest streets, in a bus opposite the
Great Synagogue. Many of the wounded were in critical or serious condition.
Both Islamic Jihad and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
August 4, 2002: Nine people were killed and about 50 wounded in a suicide
bombing of an Egged bus at the Meron junction in northern Israel. Hamas
claimed responsibility for the attack.
July 3, 2002: Eight people were killed and 86 injured, 14 seriously, when a
bomb went off at the Frank Sinatra Cafeteria on the Hebrew University Mt.
Scopus campus during the busy lunchtime rush. Israeli authorities reported
that the explosive device had been planted ahead of time, with the terrorist
possibly detonating it by remote control. Five Americans were among the
dead. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
June 18, 2002: Nineteen people were killed and more than 70 were injured, in
a suicide bombing on a bus just outside of Jerusalem. The bus, which was
completely destroyed, was traveling from Gilo to Jerusalem and had many
students on board. In addition to the bus, at least two other vehicles were
severely damaged in the attack. Hamas claimed responsibility.
June 8, 2002: Three Israelis, including a pregnant woman, were killed, and
five were injured when an armed terrorist inflitrated the community of
Carmei Tzur, south of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsiblity for the attack.
May 19, 2002: Three Israelis were killed and more than 50 injured in a
suicide bombing at an open-air market in Netanya. A Palestinian disguised as
an Israeli soldier carried out the attack. Both Hamas and the Popular Front
for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility. Two of the victims
were identified as Yosef Haviv, 70 and Arkadi Wiselman, 40, both of Netanya.
Wiselman, a chef at the Park Hotel, survived the Passover bombing on March
27.
April 27, 2002: Three Palestinian gunmen disguised as Israeli Army soldiers
cut through the perimeter fence of Adora, a settlement on the West Bank, and
entered several homes, firing on residents in their bedrooms. Four people,
including a 5-year-old girl, were killed in the attacks. Another seven were
injured, including one seriously. Both Hamas and the Popular Front for the
Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility.
March 31, 2002: Fourteen people were killed and more than 40 injured in a
suicide bombing in Haifa, in the Matza gas station restaurant near a
shopping mall. Several of the injured were in serious to critical condition.
Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 27, 2002: Twenty-two people were killed and 140 injured - 20
seriously - in a suicide bombing at the Park Hotel in the coastal city of
Netanya, in the midst of the Passover holiday seder with 250 guests. Hamas
claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 19, 2002: 1st Lt. Tal Zemach, 20, of Kibbutz Hulda, was killed and
three soldiers were injured when Palestinian terrorists opened fire at the
paratroop training compound in the Jordan Valley. Hamas claimed
responsibility for the attack.
March 9, 2002: Eleven people were killed and 54 injured, 10 of them
seriously, when a suicide bomber exploded at in a crowded cafe at the corner
of Aza and Ben-Maimon streets in the Rehavia neighborhood in the center of
Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 7, 2002: Aharon Krogliak of Beit El, Tal Kurtzweil of Bnei Brak, Asher
Marcus of Jerusalem, Eran Pikar of Jerusalem, and Ariel Zana of Jerusalem,
all aged 18, were killed and 23 people were injured, four seriously, when a
Palestinian gunman penetrated a highschool that combines religious studies
and military training in the Gush Katif settlement of Atzmona late Thursday
night. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
March 5, 2002: Palestinians fired two Kassam II rockets at the city of
Sderot shortly before 18:00 PM on Tuesday. One of the rockets hit a
residential building, moderately wounding a 16-month-old infant. Hamas
claimed responsibility for the attack.
February 10, 2002: A drive-by terrorist shooting at the entrance to the IDF
Southern Command base in Be'er Sheva killed two female soldiers and injured
four others. One of the Palestinian terrorists was killed at the scene; the
second, wearing an explosives belt, fled in the direction of a nearby school
when he was shot and killed by a soldier and police officer. Hamas claimed
responsibility for the attack.
December 2, 2001: A suicide bombing on a No. 16 Egged bus in Haifa killed 15
people and injured about 40 people. Hamas claimed responsibility for the
Haifa blast, while Hizbullah's radio and television stations expressed
support for the attacks.
December 1, 2001: A double suicide bombing at the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall
in Jerusalem at 11:30 p.m. on a Saturday night killed 11 people, aged 12-21,
and injured 188 people. A car bomb exploded 20 minutes later. Hamas claimed
responsibility for the attack.


 
 
Martin Larsen (17-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Larsen


Dato : 17-06-10 11:29

Nicky skrev:
> Fra Uriasposten:
>
> Morten Messerschmidt på sin JP blog - SF ønsker Hamas slettet fra
> terrorliste.
>
> "Forleden deltog jeg i overrækkelsen af Ekstra Bladets Victor-pris, som
> i år
> blev tildelt to iranske twittere, Mehdi Saharkhiz og Kelly Golnoush
> Niknejad. Som et led i uddelingen havde avisen arrangeret en debat mellem
> undertegnede og Ida Auken (SF). Frejdigt erklærede Ida under debatten, at
> det nu er officiel SF-politik, at Hamas ikke skal være på EU's terrorliste.
>

Ja - det kan vel ikke overraske? - den rød-grønne pagt.
Stalin-Hitler pagt sidste gang de røde stræbte efter verdensherredømme...

Mvh
Martin

Patruljen (17-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 17-06-10 08:10

On 17 Jun., 08:53, "Nicky" <ncm_abfj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Fra Uriasposten:
>
> Morten Messerschmidt på sin JP blog - SF ønsker Hamas slettet fra
> terrorliste.
>
> "Forleden deltog jeg i overrækkelsen af Ekstra Bladets Victor-pris, som i år
> blev tildelt to iranske twittere, Mehdi Saharkhiz og Kelly Golnoush
> Niknejad. Som et led i uddelingen havde avisen arrangeret en debat mellem
> undertegnede og Ida Auken (SF). Frejdigt erklærede Ida under debatten, at
> det nu er officiel SF-politik, at Hamas ikke skal være på EU's terrorliste.
>
> Med den undren, som man i al respekt for sine modstandere må have, spurgte
> jeg efter mødet, om det virkelig var rigtigt eller en lapsus. Her bedyrede
> Ida højhelligt, at det var en melding, hun just inden mødet havde modtaget
> fra sin udenrigsordfører, Holger K. Nielsen. Det er altså et officielt
> SF-synspunkt, at Hamas ikke er en terrororganisation.
>
> http://www.uriasposten.net/


Kilden er Morten Messerschmidt. Kan vi få en uafhængig bekræftelse?

Nå - ikke.

Her er så, hvad SF selv fortæller;

SF har skarpt kritiseret Israels brutale fremfærd i Gaza. De mange
civile ofre er uacceptable og Israels grusomme brug af bl.a.
fosforbomber mod boligområder med mange dræbte og lemlæstede børn til
følge, burde have udløst en bølge af fordømmelse.
Den danske statsminister Anders Fogh Rasmussen står imidlertid tilbage
som verdens sidste neo-konservative høg i sit ensidige forsvar for
Israel – hinsides al proportionalitet.

Det er vigtigt for SF at understrege sin manglende sympati for Hamas
og tage klar afstand for Hamas’ hyppige brud på våbenhvilen. SF ønsker
en fredelig og politisk løsning på striden.

Uanset Hamas’ meget alarmerende rolle er de civile palæstinensere
imidlertid gidsler i en frygtelig konflikt. Israels forhindring af
palæstinensernes bevægelsesmuligheder og den ligegyldighed hver med
Israel dette til trods alligevel skyder ind i civile områder, kan ikke
undskyldes eller forklares. http://www.sf.dk/print.aspx?func=article.view&id=45786





Bo Warming (17-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Bo Warming


Dato : 17-06-10 19:27

>Uanset Hamas’ meget alarmerende rolle er de civile palæstinensere
>imidlertid gidsler i en frygtelig konflikt. Israels forhindring af
>palæstinensernes bevægelsesmuligheder og den ligegyldighed hver med
>Israel dette til trods alligevel skyder ind i civile områder, kan ikke
>undskyldes eller forklares. http://www.sf.dk/print.aspx?func=article.view&id=45786
>
Få debatter er så vigtige som at undskylde og forklare at Israel ikke
vil smides i havet.

Søvndals løgn om at han tog afstand fra Hibzuttahrir er nu afsløret og
valget skal vindes på at forklare hvordan SF handler imod danske
interessser og er promuslimsk

Israel var på USA-UK side i verdenskrigene og palæstinensere har
derfor tabt al ret til land nær Israel - helt som tyskerne blev
fordrevet fra ØstEuropa i 1945

Danmark er i en skæbnetime, helt som UK var i 1690.
Da en britisk admiral Bing ikke gad forsvare basen på Minorka, valgte
London at henrette ham og derefter og især i isyvårskrigen vandt UK
kontrol over havene og blev rig på handel og kunne ikke besættes af
Frankrig

Tiden er en anden nu, men vi bør sadle om hvis vi vil overleve som
nation

UK ku - DK kan

Per Rønne (17-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Per Rønne


Dato : 17-06-10 15:17

Nicky <ncm_abfjern@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Forleden deltog jeg i overrækkelsen af Ekstra Bladets Victor-pris, som i år
> blev tildelt to iranske twittere, Mehdi Saharkhiz og Kelly Golnoush
> Niknejad. Som et led i uddelingen havde avisen arrangeret en debat mellem
> undertegnede og Ida Auken (SF). Frejdigt erklærede Ida under debatten, at
> det nu er officiel SF-politik, at Hamas ikke skal være på EU's terrorliste.
>
> Med den undren, som man i al respekt for sine modstandere må have, spurgte
> jeg efter mødet, om det virkelig var rigtigt eller en lapsus. Her bedyrede
> Ida højhelligt, at det var en melding, hun just inden mødet havde modtaget
> fra sin udenrigsordfører, Holger K. Nielsen. Det er altså et officielt
> SF-synspunkt, at Hamas ikke er en terrororganisation.

En sådan udtalelse er så meget hen i vejret at man må spørge om SFerne
næste gang vil fjerne Al Qaeda fra listen?

Hvis den ellers ikke er en and.

Det rigtige link:

<http://www.uriasposten.net/?p=15450>
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe

Patruljen (17-06-2010)
Kommentar
Fra : Patruljen


Dato : 17-06-10 09:16

On 17 Jun., 16:16, p...@RQNNE.invalid (Per Rønne) wrote:
> Nicky <ncm_abfj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Forleden deltog jeg i overr kkelsen af Ekstra Bladets Victor-pris, som i r
> > blev tildelt to iranske twittere, Mehdi Saharkhiz og Kelly Golnoush
> > Niknejad. Som et led i uddelingen havde avisen arrangeret en debat mellem
> > undertegnede og Ida Auken (SF). Frejdigt erkl rede Ida under debatten, at
> > det nu er officiel SF-politik, at Hamas ikke skal v re p EU's terrorliste.
>
> > Med den undren, som man i al respekt for sine modstandere m have, spurgte
> > jeg efter m det, om det virkelig var rigtigt eller en lapsus. Her bedyrede
> > Ida h jhelligt, at det var en melding, hun just inden m det havde modtaget
> > fra sin udenrigsordf rer, Holger K. Nielsen. Det er alts et officielt
> > SF-synspunkt, at Hamas ikke er en terrororganisation.
>
> En s dan udtalelse er s meget hen i vejret at man m sp rge om SFerne
> n ste gang vil fjerne Al Qaeda fra listen?

Ja - det er helt galt. Hamas er ækle -

> Hvis den ellers ikke er en and.
>
> Det rigtige link:
>
> <http://www.uriasposten.net/?p=15450>
> --
> Per Erik R nnehttp://www.RQNNE.dk
> Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe


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