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Muslimsk dødsdom mod forfatter
Fra : Poul Nielsen


Dato : 20-08-07 11:50

http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/259390


Den 9. august blev forfatteren og systemkritikeren Taslima Nasreen fra
Bangladesh angrebet af yderligtgående muslimer ved præsentationen af hendes
seneste roman i den sydindiske by Hyderabad. Lokale pressefolk og arrangører
beskyttede dog den 44-årige forfatter og fik hende i sikkerhed. Nu har dele
af det muslimske præsteskab i hendes nuværende hjemby, Calcutta, imidlertid
udsendt en dusør til den, der slår hende ihjel.



 
 
Martin Larsen (20-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Larsen


Dato : 20-08-07 15:38

"Poul Nielsen" <aslan@tdc.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46c971f5$0$90267$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/259390
>
>
> Den 9. august blev forfatteren og systemkritikeren Taslima Nasreen fra
> Bangladesh angrebet af yderligtgående muslimer ved præsentationen af
> hendes seneste roman i den sydindiske by Hyderabad. Lokale pressefolk og
> arrangører beskyttede dog den 44-årige forfatter og fik hende i sikkerhed.
> Nu har dele af det muslimske præsteskab i hendes nuværende hjemby,
> Calcutta, imidlertid udsendt en dusør til den, der slår hende ihjel.

Fredag holdt en række ledende imamer fra Calcuttas moskéer så et møde, hvor
de vedtog at udsende en dødsdom i form af en dusør på 100.000 rupees i
belønning til den, der slår Taslima Nasreen ihjel.

Altså ca 13000 kr

Igen igen ser vi:

Muhammedanismen er en terrororganisation!

Mvh
Martin


Wilstrup (20-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Wilstrup


Dato : 20-08-07 19:17


"Martin Larsen" <mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46c9a742$0$2311$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
>
> Fredag holdt en række ledende imamer fra Calcuttas moskéer
> så et møde, hvor de vedtog at udsende en dødsdom i form af
> en dusør på 100.000 rupees i belønning til den, der slår
> Taslima Nasreen ihjel.
>
> Altså ca 13000 kr
>
> Igen igen ser vi:
>
> Muhammedanismen er en terrororganisation!

Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen forrykte
udtalelser fra det yderste højre og fra en naziapologet som
dig. At nogle fuldkommen ubetydelige imamer fra en moské i
Indien skulle have vedtaget en dødsdom med en dusør på 13000
kr. er langt ude - og selvom det skulle være sandt, hvad jeg
betvivler, så er der næppe nogen der taget dette alvorligt
blandt de mange millioner muslimer, som du og dine
lidelsesfæller skærer over en kam.

Det er langt farligere at møde dine venner, nazisterne, der
rask væk sparker uskyldige kvinder ned og hvor lederen, Jonni
Hansen, koldt og psykopatisk som han er, siger at det er han
fuldkommen ligeglad med.

Nogle rare venner du har.



@ (20-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : @


Dato : 20-08-07 21:34

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:16:42 +0200, "Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com>
wrote:

>
>"Martin Larsen" <mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:46c9a742$0$2311$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> >
>> Fredag holdt en række ledende imamer fra Calcuttas moskéer
>> så et møde, hvor de vedtog at udsende en dødsdom i form af
>> en dusør på 100.000 rupees i belønning til den, der slår
>> Taslima Nasreen ihjel.
>>
>> Altså ca 13000 kr
>>
>> Igen igen ser vi:
>>
>> Muhammedanismen er en terrororganisation!
>
>Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen forrykte
>udtalelser



din uvidenhed når det angår muhamedanismen er jo fastslået



Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious
with terror.'"
Qur'an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and
incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an 8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a
defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and
be warned."
Ishaq:326 "If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those
who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of
them by terrorizing Allah's enemies."
Qur'an 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until
he has made a great slaughtered in the land."
Ishaq:588 "When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people
will be left when he leaves."
Tabari IX:42 "We have been dealt a situation from which there is no
escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to
him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is
safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being
terrorized."
Ishaq:326 "Allah said, 'No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his
enemy nor prisoners for ransom.' Muhammad said, 'I was made victorious
with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given
the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the
power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet
before me.'"
Ishaq:327 "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting
captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you
craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives
would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the
religion.'"
Qur'an 7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We
destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while
they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our
punishment overtook them."
Ishaq:510 "When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his
Companions, 'O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into error they
throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the
booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.' He
used to say this of every town he raided."
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of
Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, 'Allahu-Akbar!'
[Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a
hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for those who
have been warned.' Then the inhabitants came out running on their
roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were
taken as captives."
Bukhari:V9B87N127 "The Prophet said, 'I have been given the keys of
eloquent speech and given victory with terror.'"
Ishaq:517 "Khaybar was stormed by the Apostle's squadron, fully armed,
powerful and strong. It brought certain humiliation with Muslim men in
its midst. We attacked and they met their doom. Muhammad conquered the
Jews in fighting that day as they opened their eyes to our dust."
Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511 "So Muhammad began seizing their herds and
their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger
took some people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The
Prophet chose Safiyah for himself."
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their children
and woman taken captive."
Tabari VIII:129 "After the Messenger had finished with the Khaybar
Jews, Allah cast terror into the hearts of the Jews in Fadak when they
received news of what Allah had brought upon Khaybar. Fadak became the
exclusive property of Allah's Messenger."
Tabari VIII:133 "The raiding party went to Tha'labah. One of
Muhammad's slaves, said, 'Prophet, I know where Tha'labah can be taken
by surprise.' So Muhammad sent him with 130 men. They raided the town
and drove off camels and sheep, bringing them back to Medina."
Tabari VIII:138 "Muhammad carried arms, helmets, and spears. He led a
hundred horses, appointing Bahir to be in charge of the weapons and
Maslamah to be in charge of the horses. When the Quraysh received word
of this, it frightened them."
Qur'an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing
them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you
inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a
country you had not traversed before."
Qur'an 59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book
from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined
that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah
came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts
with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who
have eyes. This is My warning…they shall taste the torment of Fire."
Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the
agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against
them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your
neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them.
Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without
mercy-a fierce slaughter-murdered, a horrible murdering."
Tabari VIII:143 "In this year a twenty-four man raiding party led by
Shuja went to the Banu Amir. He launched a raid on them and took
camels and sheep. The shares of booty came to fifteen camels for each
man. Also a raid led by Amr went to Dhat. He set out with fifteen men.
He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused
to respond so he killed all of them."
Bukhari:V4B52N256 "The Prophet passed by and was asked whether it was
permissible to attack infidels at night with the probability of
exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied,
'Their women and children are from them.'"
Tabari IX:20 "The captives of Hunayn, along with their possessions,
were brought to the Messenger. He ordered that their captives,
animals, and their possessions be taken to Ji'ranah and held there in
custody."
Ishaq:576 "Allah and His servant overwhelmed every coward. Allah
honored us and made our religion victorious. We were glorified and
destroyed them all. Allah humiliated them in the worship of Satan. By
what our Apostle recites from the Book and by our swift horses, I
liked the punishment the infidels received. Killing them was sweeter
than drink. We galloped among them panting for the spoil. With our
loud-voiced army, the Apostle's squadron advanced into the fray."
Ishaq:580 "Our strong warriors obey his orders to the letter. By us
Allah's religion is undeniably strong. You would think when our horses
gallop with bits in their mouths that the sounds of demons are among
them. The day we trod down the unbelievers there was no deviation or
turning from the Apostle's order. During the battle the people heard
our exhortations to fight and the smashing of skulls by swords that
sent heads flying. We severed necks with a warrior's blow. Often we
have left the slain cut to pieces and a widow crying alas over her
mutilated husband. 'Tis Allah, not man we seek to please."
Tabari IX:122 "Muhammad sent Uyaynah to raid The Banu Anbar. They
killed some people and took others captive. Asma was one of the women
taken prisoner."
Tabari IX:123 "Muhammad sent an expedition to Ghalib and to the land
of the Banu Murrah. The raid on Amr and Abi was sent to the valley of
Idam. Another by Aslami was sent to Ghabah. And Abd al-Rahman was
ordered by the Messenger to lead an army to the seashore."
Tabari IX:69 "He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected
his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will
fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small
matter to us."
Bukhari:V5B59N516 "When Allah's Apostle fought or raided people we
raised our voices saying, 'Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the
right to be worshipped but Allah.'"
Tabari VII:10 "In Ramadhan, seven months after the Hijrah, Muhammad
entrusted a white war banner to Hamzah with the command of thirty
Emigrants. Their aim was to intercept a Quraysh caravan."
Ishaq:281 "The Raid on Waddan was the first Maghazi [invasion]. The
Expedition of Harith was second. They encountered a large number of
Quraysh in the Hijaz. Abu Bakr composed a poem about the raid: 'When
we called them to the truth they turned their backs and howled like
bitches. Allah's punishment on them will not tarry. I swear by the
Lord of Camels [Allah?] that I am no perjurer. A valiant band will
descend upon the Quraysh which will leave women husbandless. It will
leave men dead, with vultures wheeling round. It will not spare the
infidels.'"
Ishaq:285 "Then the Apostle went raiding in the month of Rabi
u'l-Awwal making for the Quraysh. Then he raided the Quraysh by way of
Dinar." Tabari VII:11 "In this year the Messenger entrusted to Sa'd a
white war banner for the expedition to Kharrar. Sa'd said, 'I set out
on foot at the head of twenty men. We used to lie hidden by day and
march at night, until we reached Kharrar on the fifth morning. The
caravan had arrived in town a day before. There were sixty men with
it." Tabari VII:11 "The Messenger of Allah went out on a raid as far
as Waddan, searching for Quraysh."
Tabari VII:15 "Expeditions Led by Allah's Messenger: In this year,
according to all Sira writers, the Messenger personally led the Ghazwa
of Alwa. [A Ghazwa is an Islamic Invasion in Allah's Cause consisting
of an army unit led by the Prophet himself.] He left Sa'd in command
of Medina. On this raid his banner was carried by Hamzah. He stayed
out for fifteen days and then returned to Medina. The Messenger went
on a Ghazwa at the head of two hundred of his companions in October,
623 and reached Buwat. His intention was to intercept a Quraysh
caravan with a hundred men and twenty-five hundred camels."
Ishaq:286 "Meanwhile the Apostle sent Sa'd on the raid of Abu Waqqas.
The Prophet only stayed a few nights in Medina before raiding Ushayra
and then Kurz."
Bukhari:V5B57N51 "The Apostle said, 'Tomorrow I will give the flag to
a man whose leadership Allah will use to grant a Muslim victory."
Bukhari:V5B59N569 "I fought in seven Ghazwat battles along with the
Prophet and fought in nine Maghazi raids in armies dispatched by the
Prophet."
Bukhari:V5B57N74 "I heard Sa'd saying, 'I was the first Arab to shoot
an arrow in Allah's Cause.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N401 "Allah's Wrath became severe on anyone the Prophet
killed in Allah's Cause."
Bukhari:V5B59N456 "Muhammad led the Fear Prayer [Allahu Akbar!] with
one batch of his army while the other (batch) faced the enemy."
Bukhari:V5B59N440 "Allah's Apostle used to say, 'None has the right to
be worshipped except Allah Alone because He honored His Warriors and
made His Messenger victorious. He defeated the clans; so there is
nothing left.'"
Ishaq:287 "The Muslim raiders consulted one another concerning them.
One of the Muslims said, 'By Allah, if we leave these people alone,
they will get into the sacred territory and will be safely out of our
reach. If we kill them we will have killed in the sacred month.'"
Tabari VII:19 "They hesitated and were afraid to advance, but then
they plucked up courage and agreed to kill as many as they could and
to seize what they had with them. Waqid shot an arrow at Amr and
killed him. Uthman and al-Hakam surrendered. Then Waqid and his
companions took the caravan and the captives back to Allah's Apostle
in Medina. This was the first booty taken by the Companions of
Muhammad."
Ishaq:289 "Our lances drank of Amr's blood and lit the flame of war."
Tabari VII:20/Ishaq:287 "Abd Allah told his Companions, 'A fifth of
the booty we have taken belongs to the Apostle.' This was before Allah
made surrendering a fifth of the booty taken a requirement."
Tabari VII:20/Ishaq:288 "The Quraysh said, 'Muhammad and his
Companions have violated the sacred month, shed blood, seized
property, and taken men captive.' The polytheists spread lying slander
concerning him, saying, 'Muhammad claims that he is following
obedience to Allah, yet he is the first to violate the holy month and
to kill our people.'"
Ishaq:288 "When the Qur'an passage concerning this matter was
revealed, and Allah relieved Muslims from their fear and anxiety,
Muhammad took possession of the caravan and prisoners. The Quraysh
sent him a ransom and the Prophet released the prisoners on payment.
When the Qur'an authorization came down to Muhammad, Abd Allah and his
Companions were relieved and they became anxious for an additional
reward. They said, 'Will this raid be counted as part of the reward
promised to Muslim combatants?' So Allah sent down this Qur'an: 'Those
who believe and have fought in Allah's Cause may receive Allah's
mercy.' Allah made the booty permissible. He divided the loot,
awarding four-fifths to the men He had allowed to take it. He gave
one-fifth to His Apostle."
Ishaq:288 "Allah divided the booty stolen from the first caravan after
he made spoils permissible. He gave four-fifths to those He had
allowed to take it and one-fifth to His Apostle." Tabari
VII:29/Ishaq:289 "The Apostle heard that Abu Sufyan [a Meccan
merchant] was coming from Syria with a large caravan containing their
money and their merchandise. He was accompanied by only thirty men."
Ishaq:289 "Muhammad summoned the Muslims and said, 'This is the
Quraysh caravan containing their property. Go out and attack it.
Perhaps Allah will give it to us as prey."
Tabari VII:29 "Abu Sufyan and the horsemen of the Quraysh were
returning from Syria following the coastal road. When Allah's Apostle
heard about them he called his companions together and told them of
the wealth they had with them and the fewness of their numbers. The
Muslims set out with no other object than Sufyan and the men with him.
They did not think that this raid would be anything other than easy
booty."
Bukhari:V5B59N702 "Allah did not admonish anyone who had not
participated in the Ghazwa [raid] of Badr, for in fact, Allah's
Apostle had only gone out in search of the Quraysh caravan so that he
could rob it. But Allah arranged for the Muslims and their enemy to
meet by surprise. I was at the Aqaba pledge with Allah's Apostle when
we gave our lives in submission, but the Badr battle is more popular
amongst the people. I was never stronger or wealthier than I was when
I followed the Prophet on a Ghazwa.'"
Tabari VII:29 "They did not suppose that there would be a great
battle. Concerning this Allah revealed a Qur'an: Qur'an 8:7 'Behold!
Allah promised you that one of the two parties would be yours. You
wished for the unarmed one, but Allah willed to justify His truth
according to His words and to cut off the roots of the unbelievers.'"
Tabari VII:29 "When Abu Sufyan heard that Muhammad's Companions were
on their way to intercept his caravan, he sent a message to the
Quraysh. 'Muhammad is going to attack our caravan, so protect your
merchandise.' When the Quraysh heard this, the people of Mecca
hastened to defend their property and protect their men as they were
told Muhammad was lying in wait for them." Ishaq:290 "Some Meccans
got up to circumambulate the Ka'aba…. Sitting around the mosque, they
wondered why they had allowed this evil rascal to attack their men."
Ishaq:292 "Setting out in Ramadhan, Muhammad was preceded by two black
flags. His companions had seventy camels." Tabari VII:38 "I have been
informed by authorities that Muhammad set out on 3 Ramadhan at the
head of 310 of his companions. The war banner of the Messenger was
carried by Ali. The banner of the Ansar was carried by Sa'd."
Ishaq:293/Tabari VII:30 "The prophet marched forward and spent the
night near Badr with his Companions. While the Prophet was standing in
prayer [asking Allah to help him steal] some Quraysh water-carriers
came to the well. Among these was a black slave. Muhammad's men seized
him and brought him to the Messenger's bivouac. They ordered him to
salute Allah's Apostle. Then they questioned him about Abu Sufyan.
When the slave began to tell them about the protecting force, it was
unwelcome news, for the only object of their raid was the caravan."
Tabari VII:30 "Meanwhile the Prophet was praying, bowing and
prostrating himself, and also seeing and hearing the treatment of the
slave. They beat him severely and continued to interrogate him but
they found that he had no knowledge of what they were looking for."
Ishaq:294 "The Apostle was afraid the Ansar would not feel obliged to
help him fight without the enemy being the aggressor and attacking in
Medina. Sa'd said, 'We hear and obey. We are experienced in war,
trustworthy in combat. Allah will let us show you something that will
bring you joy. The Apostle was delighted at Sa'd's words which greatly
encouraged him. Muhammad shouted, 'It is as if I see the enemy lying
prostrate.'"
Tabari VII:32 "When the Quraysh advanced, Muhammad threw dust in the
direction of their faces, and Allah put them to flight.… The Meccan
[merchant] force and the Prophet's [pirates] met and Allah gave
victory to His Messenger, shamed the unbelievers, and satisfied the
Muslims' thirst for revenge." Ishaq:297 "When the Apostle saw them he
cried, 'Allah, they called me a liar. Destroy them this morning.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N330/Ishaq:300 "Here is Gabriel holding the rein of a
horse and leading the charge. He is equipped with his weapons and
ready for the battle. There is dust upon his front teeth."
Bukhari:V5B59N327 "Gabriel came to the Prophet and said, 'How do you
view the warriors of Badr?' The Prophet said, 'I see the fighters as
the best Muslims.' On that, Gabriel said, 'And so are the Angels who
are participating in the Badr battle.'"
Tabari VII:55 "Mihaja, the mawla [slave] of Umar [the future Caliph]
was struck by an arrow and killed. He was the first Muslim to die."
Tabari VII:55 "Allah's Messenger went out to his men and incited them
to fight. He promised, 'Every man may keep all the booty he takes.'
Then Muhammad said, 'By Allah, if any man fights today and is killed
fighting aggressively, going forward and not retreating, Allah will
cause him to enter Paradise.' Umayr, who was holding some dates in his
hand and eating them, said, 'Fine, fine. This is excellent! Nothing
stands between me and my entering Paradise except to be killed by
these people!' He threw down the dates, seized his sword, and fought
until he was slain."
Tabari VII:56 "'Messenger of Allah, what makes the Lord laugh with joy
at his servant?' He replied, 'When he plunges his hand into the midst
of an enemy without armor.' So Auf took off the coat of mail he was
wearing and threw it away. Then he took his sword and fought the enemy
until he was killed."
Ishaq:301 "Muhammad picked up a handful of pebbles and faced the
Quraysh. He shouted, 'May their faces be deformed!' He threw the
pebbles at them and ordered his companions to attack. The foe was
routed. Allah killed Quraysh chiefs and caused many of their nobles to
be taken captive. While the Muslims were taking prisoners, the
Messenger was in his hut."
Bukhari:V5B59N290 "The Prophet said, 'The believers who failed to join
the Ghazwa of Badr and those who took part in it are not equal in
reward."
Bukhari:V5B59N333 "Az-Zubair said, 'I attacked him with my spear and
pierced his eye. I put my foot over his body to pull the weapon out,
but even then I had to use great force. Later on Allah's Apostle asked
me for that spear and I gave it to him.'"
Ishaq:301 "As the Muslims were laying their hands on as many prisoners
as they could catch, the Prophet, saw disapproval in the face of Sa'd.
He said, 'Why are you upset by the taking of captives?' Sa'd replied,
'This was the first defeat inflicted by Allah on the infidels.
Slaughtering the prisoners would have been more pleasing to me than
sparing them.'"
Tabari VII:59 "On the day of Badr I passed Umayyah as he was standing
with his son Ali, holding his hand. I had with me some coats of mail
which I had taken as plunder. Umayyah said, 'Abd al-Ilah, would you
like to take me as a prisoner? I will be more valuable to you as a
captive to be ransomed than the coats of mail that you are carrying.'
I said, 'Yes. Come here then.' I flung away the armor and bound
Umayyah and his son Ali, taking them with me. Muslims encircled us.
Then they restrained us physically. One of the Muslims drew his sword
and struck Ali in the leg, severing it so that he fell down. Umayyah
gave a scream the like of which I have never heard. I said, 'Save
yourself, for there is no escape for your son. By Allah, I cannot save
him from these men.' Then the Muslims hacked Ali to pieces. Abd
al-Rahman used to say, 'May Allah have mercy on Bial [a slave turned
Muslim marauder]! I lost my coats of mail, and he deprived me of my
captives.'"
Bukhari:V5B59N297 "The Prophet faced the Ka'aba and invoked evil on
the Quraysh people."
Bukhari: V5B59N397 "Allah's Apostle raised his head after bowing the
first Rak'a of the morning prayer. He said, 'O Allah! Curse so-and-so
and so-and-so.' After he had invoked evil upon them, Allah revealed:
'Your Lord will send thousands of angels riding upon chargers sweeping
down as a form of good tidings to reassure you that victory comes from
Him. He will cut off parts of the unbelievers, overthrow them, and
turn them back in frustration. For Allah is forgiving and kind.'"
[3:124]
Ishaq:303 "A cousin and I mounted a hill from which we could overlook
Badr and see who would be defeated, so that we could join in the
plundering afterwards. I was pursuing one of the Meccan polytheists in
order to smite him, when his head suddenly fell off before my sword
touched him. Then I knew that someone other than I had killed him."
Tabari VII:61 "When the Prophet had finished with his enemy, he gave
orders that Abu Jahl should be found among the dead. He said, 'O
Allah, do not let him escape!' The first man who encountered Abu Jahl
yelled out and I made him my mark. When he was within my reach, I
attacked him and struck him a blow which severed his foot and half his
leg. By Allah, when it flew off I could only compare it to a
date-stone which flies out of a crusher when it is struck. Then his
son hit me on the shoulder and cut off my arm. It dangled at my side
from a piece of skin. The fighting prevented me from reaching him
after that. I fought the whole day, dragging my arm behind me. When it
began to hurt me, I put my foot on it and stood until I pulled it
off.'" Ishaq:304 "Abd Allah bin Mas'ud said, 'I found Abu Jahl in the
throws of death. I put my foot on his neck because he had grabbed me
once at Mecca and had hurt me. Then I said, Has Allah disgraced you
and put you to shame, O enemy of Allah?' 'In what way has he disgraced
me?' he asked. 'Am I anything more important than a man whom you have
killed?'" Bukhari:V5B59N298 "Abu Jahl said, 'You should not be proud
that you have killed me.'"
Ishaq:304/Tabari VII:62 "I cut off Abu Jahl's head and brought it to
the Messenger. 'O Allah's Prophet, this is the head of the enemy of
Allah.' Muhammad said, 'Praise be to Allah.'"
Ishaq:305 "Ukkasha fought until he broke his sword. He came to the
Apostle who gave him a wooden cudgel telling him to fight with that.
He brandished it and it became a brilliant weapon. Allah gave him
victory while he wielded it. He took that weapon with him to every
raid he fought with Allah's Apostle until he was killed in the
rebellion. These were his dying words: 'What do you think about when
you kill people? Are these not men just because they are not
Muslims?'"
Ishaq:315 "It was so criminal, men could hardly imagine it. Muhammad
was ennobled because of the bloody fighting. I swear we shall never
lack soldiers, nor army leaders. Driving before us infidels until we
subdue them with a halter above their noses and a branding iron. We
will drive them to the ends of the earth. We will pursue them on horse
and on foot. We will never deviate from fighting in our cause. We will
bring upon the infidels the fate of the Ad and Jurhum. Any people that
disobey Muhammad will pay for it. If you do not surrender to Islam,
then you will live to regret it. You will be shamed in Hell, forced to
wear a garment of molten pitch forever!"
Ishaq:310 "A Meccan said, 'As soon as we were confronted by the
raiding party, we turned our backs and they started killing and
capturing us at their pleasure. Some of our men turned tail
humiliated. Allah smote some of us with pustules from which we died.'"
Ishaq:311 "When the Quraysh began to bewail their dead, consumed in
sorrow, one said, 'Do not do this for Muhammad and his companions will
rejoice over our misfortune.'"
Ishaq:340 "Surely Badr was one of the world's great wonders. The roads
to death are plain to see. Disobedience causes a people to perish.
They became death's pawns. We had sought their caravan, nothing else.
But they came to us and there was no way out. So we thrust our shafts
and swung our swords severing their heads. Our swords glittered as
they killed. The banner of error was held by Satan. He betrayed the
evil ones, those prone to treachery. He led them to death crying,
'Fear Allah. He is invincible!' On that day a thousand spirits were
mustered on excited white stallions. Allah's army fought with us.
Under our banner, Gabriel attacked and killed them."
Ishaq:341 "Allah favored His Apostle and humiliated the unbelievers.
They were put to shame in captivity and death. The Apostle's victory
was glorious. Its message is plain for all to see. The Lord brought
repeated calamities upon the pagans, bringing them under the Apostle's
power. Allah's angry army smote them with their trusty swords. Many a
lusty youngster left the enemy lying prone. Their women wept with
burning throats for the dead were lying everywhere. But now they are
all in Hell."
Ishaq:342 "I wonder at foolish men like these who sing frivolously and
vainly of the slain at Badr. This was nothing more than an impious and
odious crime. Men fought against their brothers, fathers, and sons.
Any with discernment and understanding recognize the wrong that was
done here."
Ishaq:344 "I wonder at Allah's deed. None can defeat Him. Evil ever
leads to death. We unsheathed our swords and testified to the unity of
Allah, and we proved that His Apostle brought truth. We smote them and
they scattered. The impious met death. They became fuel for Hell. All
who aren't Muslims must go there. It will consume them while the
Stoker [Allah] increases the heat. They had called Allah's Apostle a
liar. They claimed, 'You are nothing but a sorcerer.' So Allah
destroyed them."
Ishaq:348 "They retreated in all directions. They rejected the Qur'an
and called Muhammad a liar. But Allah cursed them to make his religion
and Apostle victorious. They lay still in death. Their throats were
severed. Their foreheads embraced the dust. Their nostrils were
defiled with filth. Many a noble, generous man we slew this day. We
left them as meat for the hyenas. And later, they shall burn in the
fires of Hell."
Ishaq:349 "The battle will tell the world about us. Distant men will
heed our warning. The infidels may cut off my leg, yet I am a Muslim.
I will exchange my life for one with virgins fashioned like the most
beautiful statues."
Ishaq:357 "Their leaders were left prostrate. Their heads were sliced
off like melons. Many an adversary have I left on the ground to rise
in pain, broken and plucked. When the battle was joined I dealt them a
vicious blow. Their arteries cried aloud, their blood flowed."
Ishaq:308 "Muhammad halted on a sandhill and divided the booty Allah
had given him. They congratulated him on the victory Allah had
granted. But one of the warriors replied, 'What are you congratulating
us about? We only met some bald old women like the sacrificial camels
who are hobbled, and we slaughtered them!' The Apostle smiled because
he knew that description fit ."
Tabari VII:81 "The next day I went to the Prophet. He was sitting with
Abu Bakr, and they were weeping. I said, 'O Messenger of Allah, tell
me, what has made you weep? If I find cause to weep, I will weep with
you, and if not, I will pretend to weep because you are weeping.' The
Prophet said, 'It is because of the taking of ransoms. It was laid
before me that I should punish them instead.' Allah revealed: 'It is
not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in
the land.' After that Allah made booty lawful for them."
Tabari VII:98 "The Messenger ordered Zayd [the prophet's former slave
turned adoptive son] out on a raid in which he captured a Quraysh
caravan led by Abu Sufyan at a watering place in Najd.… A number of
their merchants set out with a large amount of silver since this was
the main part of their merchandise. They hired a man to guide them
along this route. Zayd captured the caravan and its goods but was
unable to capture the men. He brought the caravan to the Prophet." [If
this isn't piracy and terror the words need to be redefined.]
Tabari VII:98 "The reason for this expedition was the Quraysh said,
'Muhammad has damaged our trade, and sits astride our road. If we stay
in Mecca we will consume our capital.' …The news of the caravan
reached the Prophet, as did the information that it contained much
wealth and silver vessels. Zayd therefore intercepted it and made
himself master of their caravan. The fifth (khums) was twenty thousand
dirhams; Allah's Apostle took it and divided the other four fifths
among the members of the raiding party. Furat was taken captive. They
said to him. 'If you accept Islam the Messenger will not kill you.'"
Qur'an 3:150 "Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the
Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had
sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!"
Ishaq:395 "Muslims, if you listen to the unbelievers you will retreat
from the enemy and become losers. Ask Allah for victory and do not
retreat, withdrawing from His religion. 'We will terrorize those who
disbelieve. In that way I will help you against them.'"
Qur'an 33:9 "O ye who believe! Remember the Grace of Allah, on you,
when there came down an army. But We sent against them a hurricane and
forces that ye saw not. Behold! They came on you from above you and
from below you, and behold, the eyes became dim and the hearts gaped
up to the throats, stupefied with terror, and ye imagined various vain
thoughts about Allah!"
Ishaq:461 "Muhammad besieged them for twenty-five nights. When the
siege became too severe for them, Allah terrorized them. Then they
were told to submit."

--
Religion of peace:
"Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them
.. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them
in every stratagem of war." Qur'an, Sura 9:5

Martin Larsen (20-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Larsen


Dato : 20-08-07 23:00

"Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46c9da88$0$2112$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Martin Larsen" <mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:46c9a742$0$2311$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> >
>> Fredag holdt en række ledende imamer fra Calcuttas moskéer så et møde,
>> hvor de vedtog at udsende en dødsdom i form af en dusør på 100.000 rupees
>> i belønning til den, der slår Taslima Nasreen ihjel.
>>
>> Altså ca 13000 kr
>>
>> Igen igen ser vi:
>>
>> Muhammedanismen er en terrororganisation!
>
> Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen forrykte udtalelser
> fra det yderste højre og fra en naziapologet som dig. At nogle fuldkommen
> ubetydelige imamer fra en moské i Indien skulle have vedtaget en dødsdom
> med en dusør på 13000 kr. er langt ude - og selvom det skulle være sandt,
> hvad jeg betvivler, så er der næppe nogen der taget dette alvorligt blandt
> de mange millioner muslimer

Ja, de er fulde af løgn i Kristeligt Dagblad, det siger sig selv, det er
kristne altid. Og "ledende" er derfor naturligvis det samme som "fuldkommen
ubetydelige".
Og Taslima kan naturligvis gå frit omkring i Calcutta - du garanterer hendes
sikkerhed

Nasreens bøger er forbudt i Bangladesh, men det er du sikkert glad for, da
ris er vigtigere end papir.

Din groteske og rød-kyniske forrykthed sætter vist ny rekord i dag.

Mvh
Martin


Wilstrup (21-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Wilstrup


Dato : 21-08-07 16:00


"Martin Larsen" <mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46ca0eed$0$2658$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
>>
>> Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen
>> forrykte udtalelser fra det yderste højre og fra en
>> naziapologet som dig. At nogle fuldkommen ubetydelige
>> imamer fra en moské i Indien skulle have vedtaget en
>> dødsdom med en dusør på 13000 kr. er langt ude - og selvom
>> det skulle være sandt, hvad jeg betvivler, så er der næppe
>> nogen der taget dette alvorligt blandt de mange millioner
>> muslimer
>
> Ja, de er fulde af løgn i Kristeligt Dagblad,


nu, du siger det.

det siger sig selv, det er
> kristne altid. Og "ledende" er derfor naturligvis det samme
> som "fuldkommen ubetydelige".
> Og Taslima kan naturligvis gå frit omkring i Calcutta - du
> garanterer hendes sikkerhed

At du sluger råt hver eneste gang at borgerpressen er på spil,
undrer mig ikke, men at du generaliserer groft på baggrund af
nogle få muslimers adfærd, burde vække til eftertanke hos
dig - men det gør det heller ikke, for det vil jo næppe styrke
dine fjendebilleder.




Martin Larsen (21-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Martin Larsen


Dato : 21-08-07 16:36

"Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46cafdff$0$2093$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Martin Larsen" <mlarsen@post7.tele.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:46ca0eed$0$2658$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> >>
>>Og "ledende" er derfor naturligvis det samme som "fuldkommen ubetydelige".
>> Og Taslima kan naturligvis gå frit omkring i Calcutta - du garanterer
>> hendes sikkerhed
>
> At du sluger råt hver eneste gang at borgerpressen er på spil, undrer mig
> ikke, men at du generaliserer groft på baggrund af nogle få muslimers
> adfærd, burde vække til eftertanke hos dig - men det gør det heller ikke,
> for det vil jo næppe styrke dine fjendebilleder.

Dine benægtelser er jo patologiske

Mvh
Martin


Frank (21-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Frank


Dato : 21-08-07 12:28

Hej

"Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46c9da88$0$2112$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

> Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen forrykte udtalelser
> fra det yderste højre og fra en naziapologet som dig. At nogle fuldkommen
> ubetydelige imamer fra en moské i Indien skulle have vedtaget en dødsdom
> med en dusør på 13000 kr. er langt ude - og selvom det skulle være sandt,
> hvad jeg betvivler, så er der næppe nogen der taget dette alvorligt blandt
> de mange millioner muslimer, som du og dine lidelsesfæller skærer over en
> kam.

At der er sandt kan du forvisse dig om her:

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-29026120070817

Jeg håber at reuters vil finde nåde for din selektive vurdering af
sandheden.

Og artiken indeholder f.eks: "The threat came after a meeting of dozens of
clerics from prominent mosques in Kolkata" og ""Anyone who executes the
warrant will also be given additional rewards," said Nurur Rehman Barkati, a
cleric of one of the biggest mosques in Kolkata." så det er ikke nogle
ubetydelige imamer fra en enkelt bedehytte langt ude på landet der har
udstedt truslerne.

Mvh
Frank

--
Husk at krigen i Iraq er ført på samme folkeretslige grundlag som krigen om
Kosovo.




Wilstrup (21-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Wilstrup


Dato : 21-08-07 16:02


"Frank" <far@nosmap.dk> skrev i meddelelsen
news:46cacc28$0$72889$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk...
> Hej
>
> "Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:46c9da88$0$2112$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
>
>> Igen igen ser vi grove generaliseringer og fuldkommen
>> forrykte udtalelser fra det yderste højre og fra en
>> naziapologet som dig. At nogle fuldkommen ubetydelige
>> imamer fra en moské i Indien skulle have vedtaget en
>> dødsdom med en dusør på 13000 kr. er langt ude - og selvom
>> det skulle være sandt, hvad jeg betvivler, så er der næppe
>> nogen der taget dette alvorligt blandt de mange millioner
>> muslimer, som du og dine lidelsesfæller skærer over en kam.
>
> At der er sandt kan du forvisse dig om her:
>
> http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-29026120070817
>
> Jeg håber at reuters vil finde nåde for din selektive
> vurdering af sandheden.

Reuters bureau- også kaldtet Rygters bureau - er ikke nogen
sandhedskilde - sidst de skrev noget, handlede det om episoden
i Fælledparken. Der skrev alle aviser at politiet havde været
og besigtiget tingene uden at finde anledning til indsigelser,
men hos Rygters Bureau forlød det at de havde stoppet det.
>
> Og artiken indeholder f.eks: "The threat came after a
> meeting of dozens of clerics from prominent mosques in
> Kolkata" og ""Anyone who executes the warrant will also be
> given additional rewards," said Nurur Rehman Barkati, a
> cleric of one of the biggest mosques in Kolkata." så det er
> ikke nogle ubetydelige imamer fra en enkelt bedehytte langt
> ude på landet der har udstedt truslerne.

overfortolkning.



Ukendt (21-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Ukendt


Dato : 21-08-07 18:41

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:02:24 +0200, "Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com>
wrote:

>> At der er sandt kan du forvisse dig om her:
>>
>> http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-29026120070817
>>
>> Jeg håber at reuters vil finde nåde for din selektive
>> vurdering af sandheden.
>
>Reuters bureau- også kaldtet Rygters bureau - er ikke nogen
>sandhedskilde

Så var den der igen...

Alle historier der ikke passer med DIN (alternative) opfattelse af
virkeligheden, er ikke sande... )

>overfortolkning.

LOL....

Frank (22-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Frank


Dato : 22-08-07 09:26

Hej

"Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46cafe7d$0$2093$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

> Reuters bureau- også kaldtet Rygters bureau - er ikke nogen
> sandhedskilde - sidst de skrev noget, handlede det om episoden i
> Fælledparken. Der skrev alle aviser at politiet havde været og besigtiget
> tingene uden at finde anledning til indsigelser, men hos Rygters Bureau
> forlød det at de havde stoppet det.

Du er sikker på at du ikke tænker på Ritzau's Bereau, mere populært kaldet
Rygters bureau?

De historier jeg har set i aviserne om den omtalte episode er alle fra
Ritzau.

F.eks her: http://www.fyens.dk/article/840359

Med hvilken begrundelse vil du nu afvise Reuters historie?

Mvh
Frank

--
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to
Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only
Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed
civilians. That's war. And this is war.



Ukendt (22-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Ukendt


Dato : 22-08-07 12:33

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:26:26 +0200, "Frank" <far@nosmap.dk> wrote:

>Du er sikker på at du ikke tænker på Ritzau's Bereau, mere populært kaldet
>Rygters bureau?
>
>De historier jeg har set i aviserne om den omtalte episode er alle fra
>Ritzau.
>
>F.eks her: http://www.fyens.dk/article/840359
>
>Med hvilken begrundelse vil du nu afvise Reuters historie?

Når Wilstrup har en anden mening, så er det ALTID de andre der tager
fejl.... )))

Bruno Christensen (22-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Bruno Christensen


Dato : 22-08-07 19:42

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:33:12 +0200, S.A.Thomsen wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:26:26 +0200, "Frank" <far@nosmap.dk> wrote:
>
>>Du er sikker på at du ikke tænker på Ritzau's Bereau, mere populært kaldet
>>Rygters bureau?
>>
>>De historier jeg har set i aviserne om den omtalte episode er alle fra
>>Ritzau.
>>
>>F.eks her: http://www.fyens.dk/article/840359
>>
>>Med hvilken begrundelse vil du nu afvise Reuters historie?
>
> Når Wilstrup har en anden mening, så er det ALTID de andre der tager
> fejl.... )))

Du har jo en nem mulighed, bevis det modsatte.

--
Med Venlig Hilsen
Bruno Christensen

Ukendt (22-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : Ukendt


Dato : 22-08-07 21:12

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:42:11 +0200, Bruno Christensen
<news@lpdommer.dk> wrote:

>>>Du er sikker på at du ikke tænker på Ritzau's Bereau, mere populært kaldet
>>>Rygters bureau?
>>>
>>>De historier jeg har set i aviserne om den omtalte episode er alle fra
>>>Ritzau.
>>>
>>>F.eks her: http://www.fyens.dk/article/840359
>>>
>>>Med hvilken begrundelse vil du nu afvise Reuters historie?
>>
>> Når Wilstrup har en anden mening, så er det ALTID de andre der tager
>> fejl.... )))
>
>Du har jo en nem mulighed, bevis det modsatte.

Så kunne jeg jo ikke lave andet....

@ (22-08-2007)
Kommentar
Fra : @


Dato : 22-08-07 15:48

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:26:26 +0200, "Frank" <far@nosmap.dk> wrote:

>Hej
>
>"Wilstrup" <nix@invalid.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:46cafe7d$0$2093$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
>
>> Reuters bureau- også kaldtet Rygters bureau - er ikke nogen
>> sandhedskilde - sidst de skrev noget, handlede det om episoden i
>> Fælledparken. Der skrev alle aviser at politiet havde været og besigtiget
>> tingene uden at finde anledning til indsigelser, men hos Rygters Bureau
>> forlød det at de havde stoppet det.
>
>Du er sikker på at du ikke tænker på Ritzau's Bereau, mere populært kaldet
>Rygters bureau?
>
>De historier jeg har set i aviserne om den omtalte episode er alle fra
>Ritzau.
>
>F.eks her: http://www.fyens.dk/article/840359
>
>Med hvilken begrundelse vil du nu afvise Reuters historie?

Wilstrup afviser pr. automatik alle fakta som ikke passer ind i hans
fantasiverden


--
Religion of peace:
"Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them
.. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them
in every stratagem of war." Qur'an, Sura 9:5

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