Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:lkp8pjqJbvLDFw5
+@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>
> In article <Xns96D6B71272A57xnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>, Beng
> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:eFUixMm$rtLDFwd0
>>@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>
>>>
>>> In article <Xns96D6ADD778324xnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>, Beng
>>> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>>>Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>news:SudRrCZZUpLDFw+K@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In article <Xns96D677D5E8D68xnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>,
Beng
>>>>> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>>>>>Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>news:gW1dlII60lLDFw6A@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <Xns96D5F2230E83Exnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>,
>>Beng
>>>>>>> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>>>>>>>Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>>>news:8N3qDoEwgdLDFw4W@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <Xns96D5DC18F8343xnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>,
>>>>Beng
>>>>>>>>> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>>>>>>>>>Malcolm <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>news:FaqUWLCFxbLDFw+C@indaal.demon.co.uk:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <Xns96D5D3A4A451Bxnews88REMOVEyahoose@
130.133.1.4>,
>>>>>>Beng
>>>>>>>>>>> <xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Which goose might this be ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My guess = Graylag goose (Anser anser)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Very poor pictures, but the small movie is a little better..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't told us where either is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sorry..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
http://orre.mine.nu/id/id7/id7.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>//Ben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are Pink-footed Geese Anser brachyrhynchus, juvenile in
the
>>>>>>first
>>>>>>>>> few pictures, adult in the remainder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Compare the bill shape and colour of Greylag and Pinkfoot on
>>page
>>>>43
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>> the Collins Bird Guide and you will see that Greylag has a
much
>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>>> bill, coloured all over, while the Pinkfoot has a dark bill
with
>>>>>>pink
>>>>>>>>> over the top and along the sides.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But.. Pink-footed.. gotta be quite a sensation here ? No reports
>>>>this
>>>>>>>>year..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All pictures and movie is 100% the same bird. There was only one
>>>>bird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK. I've had another look and the variation I thought I saw is
in
>>>>the
>>>>>>> photographs not the bird. The first three photos are so dark
that
>>>>some
>>>>>>> of the features aren't visible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But I have to agree.. the bill WAS really small.. the bird was
>>>>totally
>>>>>>>>un-shy.. I could go about 2 meters near..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The photos are bad because it was dark.. so shaking-unstibility
>>>>>>>>occoured..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It seems to be darker at top of bill too? as the Pink-footed..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well well, I got to get some more opinion on this one..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it really IS Pink-footed.. I would be VERY pleased.. I don't
>>>>"have
>>>>>>>>"that one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh it really IS pink-footed. There is absolutely no doubt about
>>>>that.
>>>>>>> The fact that it was so tame suggests that it may not have been
>>>>>>> completely fit. I notice that in the last photo the right wing
tip
>>>>is
>>>>>>> trailing slightly below the tail feathers instead of being on
top
>>>>like
>>>>>>> the left wing. This is sometimes a sign of some injury.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I have to agree. And it was still there today, and now I got
>>>>GOOD
>>>>>>photos !!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't look injured, but maybe unable to fly. Today I got as
>>close
>>>>>>as 1 meter..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>take a look:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://orre.mine.nu/id/id7/id7.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>> Those are better pics! The bird is a juvenile, hatched this year.
>>It
>>>>> might be a Bean Goose rather than a Pinkfoot, which is much more
>>>>likely
>>>>> bearing in mind where you live!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But.. the leg-color then ?? Bean goose = orange legs ?
>>>>
>>>>This one does NOT have orange legs.
>>>>
>>> It's legs are actually quite bright for a juvenile. And not as pure
>>pink
>>> as all that. And Bean Geese can, rarely, have pink legs!
>>>
>>>>So, I would say Pink-footed..
>>>>
>>> It's the bill I'm looking at mostly. It's got an awful lot of colour
>>on
>>> it for a Pinkfoot and is quite deep at the base, both a bit more
like
>>> Bean than Pinkfoot.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>But ..the bill is also small?
>>
> But the bill of some bean geese is not large.
>
>>And, the bird itself was not very big..
>>
> Nor are some bean geese.
>
>>Now I am confused... Bean or Pink-footed... :(
>>
> Almost certainly Pink-footed, but it is a strange bird in a strange
> place and I just said it "might" be Bean to get you thinking
>
>>But again.. really reliable people says Pink-footed.. but I also have
a
>>lot of trust in your opinion...
>>
> I think they are very probably right.
>
>>Or, should we say that it is impossible to decide betweeen Bean and
>>Pink-footed ???
>>
> Sometimes.
>
> I believe this bird is a Pinkfoot, but some of its charactistics are
not
> entirely typical.
>
Ok, I have really tried to compare to the book.. and I would say Pink-
footed.
Dont'n know if you got my earlier "other opinion".. here it is any way.
And, thanks for your effort Malc !
"Yes, it is a Pink-footed goose.
Shortbilled with pink point of bill and also pink legs (pink/red is a
better description).
On the pictures whitout flash one can see the brighter tail (than Bean
goose) and and the brighter back
(extra obvious silvercolour on some feaders). Back: silver in there.
Neck and head deeper chokolate-brown
than Bean.
The light tips on any feader at back and wings indicates young bird."
//Ben