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Hi.

So, nobody who disagree with these two ?

Reed Bunting ?

http://orre.mine.nu/id/id5/1.htm

and

Redwing ?

http://orre.mine.nu/id/id5/2.htm
http://orre.mine.nu/id/id5/3.htm

I'm not SO convinced myself...

//Ben

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Not a Red Wing

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Beng Bengsson wrote:
> Hi.
>
> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>
> Reed Bunting ?

Correct


> Redwing ?
>

Why not? Looks like one to me.

Cheers,

Phil

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"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:42932817$0$79459
$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:

> Beng Bengsson wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>>
>> Reed Bunting ?
>
> Correct
>
>
>> Redwing ?
>>
>
> Why not? Looks like one to me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>

NOW were talking !.. Looks like Redwing.. but... how SURE can one be ?

//Ben

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Beng wrote:
> "Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in
> news:42932817$0$79459 $14726298@news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> Beng Bengsson wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>>>
>>> Reed Bunting ?
>>
>> Correct
>>
>>
>>> Redwing ?
>>>
>>
>> Why not? Looks like one to me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>
> NOW were talking !.. Looks like Redwing.. but... how SURE can one be
> ?
>
> //Ben

Very. Of the only other contenders with eyebrows, Eyebrowed Thrush is
plain grey on the breast in the male but in both sexes a much plainer
bird (plus it's the wrong time of year) and Dusky Thrush has a
different shape as well as other plumage differences. So the likeliest
bird in Scandinavia at this time of year is the right one.

Cheers,

Phil

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"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:42935ce0$0$79452
$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:

> Beng wrote:
>> "Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in
>> news:42932817$0$79459 $14726298@news.sunsite.dk:
>>
>>> Beng Bengsson wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>>>>
>>>> Reed Bunting ?
>>>
>>> Correct
>>>
>>>
>>>> Redwing ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not? Looks like one to me.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>
>> NOW were talking !.. Looks like Redwing.. but... how SURE can one be
>> ?
>>
>> //Ben
>
> Very. Of the only other contenders with eyebrows, Eyebrowed Thrush is
> plain grey on the breast in the male but in both sexes a much plainer
> bird (plus it's the wrong time of year) and Dusky Thrush has a
> different shape as well as other plumage differences. So the likeliest
> bird in Scandinavia at this time of year is the right one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
>

Thanks.. you ARE the greatest !

//Ben

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Beng wrote:

> Thanks.. you ARE the greatest !


That's what my mother always used to say anyway. It's just getting
everyone else to recognise it that's the problem.

Cheers,

Phil
--
'Remember John, no man is an island...
except Fred Madagascar'
(Spike Milligan interviewed by the late John Dunn on Radio 2)

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"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:429371f2$0$79460
$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:

> Beng wrote:
>
>> Thanks.. you ARE the greatest !
>
>
> That's what my mother always used to say anyway. It's just getting
> everyone else to recognise it that's the problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil

Well.. I like that you TRY to solve a problem for a newbie birdwatcher !

I WILL come back for more..

//ben

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"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:42935ce0$0$79452
$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:

> Beng wrote:
>> "Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in
>> news:42932817$0$79459 $14726298@news.sunsite.dk:
>>
>>> Beng Bengsson wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>>>>
>>>> Reed Bunting ?
>>>
>>> Correct
>>>
>>>
>>>> Redwing ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not? Looks like one to me.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>
>> NOW were talking !.. Looks like Redwing.. but... how SURE can one be
>> ?
>>
>> //Ben
>
> Very. Of the only other contenders with eyebrows, Eyebrowed Thrush is
> plain grey on the breast in the male but in both sexes a much plainer
> bird (plus it's the wrong time of year) and Dusky Thrush has a
> different shape as well as other plumage differences. So the likeliest
> bird in Scandinavia at this time of year is the right one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
>

yes.. but..I see eyebrowes EVERYwhere !

//Ben

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In article <Xns9660B92A3577Cxnews88REMOVEyahoose@130.133.1.4>, Beng
<xnews88REMOVE@yahoo.se> writes
>"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:42932817$0$79459
>$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> Beng Bengsson wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> So, nobody who disagree with these two ?
>>>
>>> Reed Bunting ?
>>
>> Correct
>>
>>
>>> Redwing ?
>>>
>>
>> Why not? Looks like one to me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>
>NOW were talking !.. Looks like Redwing.. but... how SURE can one be ?
>
100%!

What else could it possibly be? Phil has ruled out two vagrants which
were hardly contenders anyway. "Carpist" said "Not Redwing", but didn't
explain why it wasn't.

Occam's Razor should always be applied to bird identification

--
Malcolm

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Malcolm wrote:

> What else could it possibly be? Phil has ruled out two vagrants
> which
> were hardly contenders anyway. "Carpist" said "Not Redwing", but
> didn't explain why it wasn't.
>
> Occam's Razor should always be applied to bird identification

I don't rule anything out absolutely on range alone. If a Belted
Kingfisher can flop down two miles from my house completely out of the
blue, then I can't *automatically* rule out something odd. But as you
imply, 99.999 percent of the time, it will be the expected bird in the
expected place. Some people must find that hard to live with, because
I keep reading about possible vagrants that turn out to be just the
usual bird in the usual place after all. Some were trying to turn
Honey Buzzard into Lesser Spotted Eagle last week. Fortunately the
bird was photographed.

Cheers,

Phil
--
"I'm so lonesome in the saddle since my horse died."
(Definition of Country & Western music by comedian Eddie Large)

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"Phil Wilson" <philip.wilson@talk21.com> wrote in news:429368c9$0$79460
$14726298@news.sunsite.dk:

> Malcolm wrote:
>
>> What else could it possibly be? Phil has ruled out two vagrants
>> which
>> were hardly contenders anyway. "Carpist" said "Not Redwing", but
>> didn't explain why it wasn't.
>>
>> Occam's Razor should always be applied to bird identification
>
> I don't rule anything out absolutely on range alone. If a Belted
> Kingfisher can flop down two miles from my house completely out of the
> blue, then I can't *automatically* rule out something odd. But as you
> imply, 99.999 percent of the time, it will be the expected bird in the
> expected place. Some people must find that hard to live with, because
> I keep reading about possible vagrants that turn out to be just the
> usual bird in the usual place after all. Some were trying to turn
> Honey Buzzard into Lesser Spotted Eagle last week. Fortunately the
> bird was photographed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil

I just LOVE that you TALK about these birds.. so i LEARN !

Thanks..

Another one is coming up soon... ;)

//Ben