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Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,
many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

= 2004 DW = http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW Updates

It seems we have a new object in astrology. While Quaoar
was delineated in Ophiucus, 2004 is in Hydra, both snaky
zodiacal constellations. Many of you have Sun in Ophiucus
but nobody in Hydra. Planets, minor planets, as well as
the ascendant are nevertheless often in Hydra, an interesting
long constellation as concerns size, depth and mythology.

Hydra ascending with 2004 DW for newborn babies shown for
various locations, 5 pm Glasgow, 17:11 Rio, 16:30 Charlotte, NC.
Various appendixes incorporated in this text, as well
as the newsgroup and our Archives explain the mysterious
facets of 28zodiac astrology while introducing new ones.

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2004 DW in Canis Minor: Death, lost battle, ressurectiOM.
Slain god cults.

2004 DW in Orion: 1957 was a peculiar year, indeed.
Family values, new colors and sounds,
leisure, fun, atomic bomb. Sicherheit
zu Erste. Protection is the main
pO5sessiOM. Orators can be sincere.

2004 DW in Hydra: Dangerous waters! (present position).
One sleeps on sexualaurels. Lolita.
Lady Scarlet is teen!

Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending,
many of them are already "marked" with a 2004 DW ascendant!

2004 DW in Sextans: The Messiah. 2007 Venus in Hydra?

2004 DW in Crater: The time of the false prophets. LegislatiOM.

2004 DW in Corvus: Oberon and Puck revived in druidic England
and Syria. Dolphin cults. Inspection and
spiritual protection. The Holy Raven.

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Time to discover your own position and those of your future
children and favorite tiranitoes. We will use genuine ancient
ways (stargazing) whernever it's possible to capture 2004 DW
's message, more or less messianic.

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

666 is no longer alone

2004 DW in the 6th house is the Whore of the Apocalypse.

Babalon's Progress
2004 DW off Tiamat's Back and into the Apocalypse
Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org /2004DW
Astromajikal Delineation and Update, Mar 5th 2004.
See = Adenda = for astrological novices, curious and the expert!
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Note that we dismiss it's "position in Leo" as unsensical.
Your local astronomer will, of course, agree. Your shaman
will agree. Nature agrees. Star gazing confirms. So there's
no need to pay attention to "2004 DW in Leo" gibberish.
When and if it's in Leo sometimes, we'll let you know.
It may as well be it never reaches Leo proper. Pluto never
reaches Aries or Pisces, so that would be no surprise!

Introduction for the general reader:

True Zodiac = Albeit generally assumed (?) the zodiac has
13 constellations, it has in fact 28 constellations (or 29
if we split Serpens Cauda from Serpens Caput). Hydra is
not only zodiacal, but also ascendental, meaning many of
you were born with Hydra ascending (since occult is at
stake). One cannot e.g. have Aries ascending in due east.

The 28zodiac has an astronomical rationale. After my own
modest research triumphing in indian summer 2003, I have
found by sheer chance a research has been conducted in
the late seventies as a couple of astronomers (NC U.S.A.
and Belgium) with the results published in popular format.

The zodiac has 28 constellations, and if we exclude Pluto
as planet (something already largely proposed), it has a
convenient number of 24 (but astrlogers will use 25)
constellations. This has nothing to do with outdated
vedic calc and has everything to do with IAU.

Giant Transneptunians = objects larger than the main belt
asteroids (e.g. Eunomia or Vesta). They are usually fall
into cubewano (Varuna) or plutino (Ixion) class. The SDO
or Scattered Disk Objects are also taken into account.
Since 1992 we have discovered 800 transneptunians.

Centaurs = popular lively objects "closer" to us. Chariklo
and Hylonome are female centaurs. Among the others Cyllarus,
Thereus, Nessus, Pelion, Chiron, Elatus, Pholus, 2004 CJ39.

Extrazodiacal = A convenient term that may drop out soon
as it served it's purpose. It may even create some confusion
when Pluto is degraded as plutino. Use "28 Constellations
Zodiac" to upgrade from http://puck.dhs.org/extra

Disposing of Pluto, we are left with a convenient (?) 24
constellations zodiac. In that cases constellations such
as Bootes would be called "extrazodiacal", along with Pluto's
(a.k.a. "out of bounds") "extreme" = extrazodiacal positions.

Ascendant = Eastern constellation and inorganic being (especially
head or ascended master-star). Aries cannot ascend in due east at
this time and age, but it used to at the time when Crater was an
ascendental constellation, too. http://puck.dhs.org/nu 4examples.
http://puck.dhs.org/extra for "extrazodiacal" (!:) constellations.

One note:

The "13th" constellation is Ophiucus, a large strip of the zodiac.
As the Sun spends an average of (roughly!) six days in Scorpius, it
slips by Ixion into Ophiucus to meet Quaoar, Pluto, 2002 MS4 there,
along with the Moon, Mercury, Venus and (all) other planets, as well.

For Pluto and Jupiter in Ophiucus see = Adenda = at the bottom of
this article. At the time you read this, Pluto may be moving into
Scutum (the resent position of Juno!: see Juno-minded appendix).

Have a planet in Ophiucus? Search http://groups.google.com for
"Sun in Ophiucus" or "Venus in Ophiucus" delineations. That
applies for Saturn or Venus in Orion and other 28zodiacal
poO5itions, "Venus in Hydra" including.

(continued)

Whatever difficult position you may have in your nativity,
hard work benefits. Monastery discipline is needed to overcome
this object's influence. Abramelin would particulary elaborate
on it, but we have Elipinon! http://www.lava.net/~pagios

Statements like "2004 DW in Leo" have no sense. By the way,
Pluto is never in Aries or Pisces. http://puck.dhs.org/nu
Hydra is a long thing, so 2004 DW's journey through Hydra
roughly lasts 12 years. You can have Hydra ascending, of
course, in your own natal chart (but you can't have e.g.
Aries ascending). 2004 DW in Hydra roughly 1984 - 2006.

Parenting in 2007? You are not alone, either.

See also "Venus in Hydra". The site abounds with data
pointing to possible special incarnations, especially in 2007!
Parents should exercise extra timing and ritual!

It seems like the devils blow their 13th trombone
After giant Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/enter.html
we have 2004 DW. Lady Scarlet of the Apocalypse
bathes in her poisonous pool as female monsters
rise. Whoever saith antiChrist's a male?????????????
The site includes the calculations and birthright of the
antichrists. Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra?

Our blood is poison to the lips of the Beast!

An object larger than Quaoar has been recently discovered.
This article will require some familiarity with the True
Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,
(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on
it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a
centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the
centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation
use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important
objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can
use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines
to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian.

The greatest discovery after Pluto, 2004 DW receives it's
first delineation. As we had Quaoar in houses, so we have

2004 DW in Houses

The largest discovery after Pluto may be the Devil Himself
for some and Loving Guardian Angel for the rest. Such is
it's dual nature. Man has two minds and it is 2004 DW that
makes them clash asunder towards the apocalyptic End of Time.
2004 DW in Houses

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Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's
assignation to "tropical Leo", an unexisting and absolutely foul
preassumption of the poor mind. 2004 is not nearly in Leo, it is
in Hydra. Worse: it is not heading towards any "astrological"
constellation, as the illustrations clearly show and purporting
text discusses in some (even mythological) detail.

The other gross errors will spring from the aspects of 2004 DW.
People assume the zodiac is some kind of ring. It is a belt
made of 28 constellations (not 13). While 2004 DW may hold
extrazodiacal positions (kind of tricky to check out), it
nevertheless perfectly occupies _zodiacal_ constellations,
such as Hydra, Sextans, Crater, Corvus, Orion, Aquila, to
mention some. Venus is in Orion this summer so Orion is a
zodiacal constellation. This truism will puzzle alanleist
astrologers, more than his own inabillity to calc his chart.

http://puck.dhs.org/nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar (corrections)

Some will assume a distant Sun has this or that aspect, even
conjunction with 2004 DW, while the objects will be constellations
apart. This is largely an error with stars, such as Beta Persei
or Scheat (or 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian) and a variety
(actually majority!) of objects (including some planets!) with
"out-of-bound" (bound?) positions, e.g. "extreme" (???)
declinations. First he assumes the zodiac has 12 (???) "signs"
(?????), then he assumes all planet(oid)s "glide" along the
same (fairly circular) track. Then errors spring. People
already fancy conjunctions and even squares, since no one
told them (you tell what you know) the basics. People thinking
the zodiac has 13 (or even 12) "signs" are genuinely and raving
equinoctially mad. For all practical (?) purposes we assume Pluto
is a planet, and so most of you do assume there is something like
a 12 sign zodiac. One took some school drafts too seriousely.

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

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In North Carolina there's an observatory that knows the 28 zodiacal
constellations. And there's an astronomer in Belgium that agrees.
The truth must be told to the ahstrological communtity (even if they
won't listen), since there are rare "incarnations" among them that
have "astrological" (or even astronomical) aspects in their charts.
A few of them could study astrology. This would rise the number of
astrologers on this planet from perhaps half a dozen to dozenful.

(This is the first annotation, rough keywords used.)
The houses are usually numerated and "understood" in
a crooked way, e.g. the house of the rising Sun is
labeled 12th, and has a particullary bad reputation.

Let us be certain that the devil installs minds. Astrologers
have minds. The suggestion is to use 12th=1st, 11th=2nd and
so on. It is still better to use a 28 house system (allowing
29 for Caput and cauda Serpentis) in our fully operative and
astronomically precise 28 constellation zodiac.

1. Lamia. Three watersnakes with female faces seduce the youth
like Ida Pingala and Shushumna. Study Aquila and Leo. Alchemy.

666 is allone, even after a ritual with a compatible Beast.
NEM0's whiteness is not like silvery apparition. Brahma's
womb is not sunnya sunnyata. Voidless Void. O5 NETI NETI.
Final annihilation. Loneliness. There's N0 0NE BUT ME!

Agent Smith's "Me, me, me!". Projection. Futile riches.
Gay cataclysm. Satan. The Fall. Ecliptic times. The primal
wound. Left body stirring. The Dark Side. The triumph of
Naga Sadow. All fall! Hell is white.

The three-in-one vampirelike monster of the pool is however
devoured by their victim after having sex with him. Lamia is
not a bad alternative (to Aiwass) for this object, at least
while it venoms our perception pool with triurne kundalini.

Wav files as opposed to mp3 files. Waves as opposed to life
compression. cOMpress time, rather than life. Don't waste a
second. Gulp it up. Devour the day.

Scarlet Lady masquerading as watermonster? Don't we have
submarines? /1/

2. You give too much of your energy. This is bad for money
matters. Jesus Christ was ultimately sold. The formula
of the dying God. Do not lend on interest. Save yourself
first. Keep some for yourself.

Your vital energy is beng sucked through as the vampire gets
away with it. The sacrifice was accepted by the greedy inorganic,
yet there is no receipt note or thanksgiving or anything in left
in exchange.

Hell's entrance. PORTA INFERNA. Set in the Desert. Lucifer.
Particularly demoniac with Venus Lucifer position (in Hydra).

Lost aircrafts. Highjacking. Deliberately shot airplane.

3. Good will prevail. True Mind triumphs in Silence and Intent.
This is bad for merchandize, ego, transactions and the devil.
Roughly meaning there is sympathy between the devil and the merchant.

Satan's source code. The MatriX. The well of the snakes.
Hell protecting the water of life. Black shiatsu.

4. Excellent for homely matters. Cosy home. Warm familiar
atmosphere. A Note: but that may take quitesome time!
A promise of a warm hearth, even if family life has
been less than ideal up to now. Note that we use the
nadir or due North instead of mere I.C.

Note that with Hydra North this is the Pool of the Lamia.
A sort of Scarlet Lady's basin (of the blood of the saints).
Love all serve bloody all.

A very good position! Angel guardian. Homework for my students:
when Hydra is due North, what do we face South? Love, lover,
love affairs, friendly dispO5ition, basic sincere friendship,
true communism, spirit of alliance, the ally, inorganic help.

An ally-angel carries the acolyte beyond this world.
"We will rock you little snake", devil rocked and warm in the
cradle of fillit, and one gets away without it! Liberation
with the help of the ascended Masters. Heads. Nadiric angel.

Time to study your own chart's Nadir to determine your Angel
of the Nadir. Rather tricky if you are familiar with I.C. only!

Evocation of the nadiric inorganic entity. Sure success in all.
This is also a disk Cretely fair material situation, all goes well.

In horary astrology: SHE LOVES YOU!

We can predict the rise of Nadiric astrology at this point!
Too early since our horaries can't calc the Moon:)

5. Unsure of one's own jealousy. Too reserved or outspoken
to be provoked into jealousy. One may even wish well one's
own rival. The ultimate vendetta is Love. The futile triumph
of the jealousy agent provocateur. Jealousy countered from
the very start. Expert jealousy v/s juvenile training.

Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in
Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and
Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation,
rather inclined towards loneliness).

Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including.

Turn around from lovesex. Get rid of that partner.
Sex as escape. Release of sperm and kundalini overweight.

This is surely not a kundalinic obesity pO5sition.

Touch'n'go!

One night stand.

6. Indulgence. Love all serve all. Devour all?

The whore (serve all). Scarlet Lady. Our Lady Babalon.

A harlot will learn.

To banish (discreate), use sibiline verse addressed to Holy
Queen Mother as given below.

7. Excellent for marriage. Note that we use the western horizon
instead of tropical astrology descendant. See our correction
of Rudhyar and Leo http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar

The wife as best enemy of the devil inside. Shy hermit is not
christ in hiding? Magdalen the Savior. Ciesa dea Madalena
http://puck.dhs.org/venexia Piglet saving the Tiger.
Invisible wife's allies, familiaries, the fallen, meek shall
florish. Non-persons. An inorganic wife (dwarfish or orkish
rather than undine).

8. Fertile impregnation. The watersnake. Tiamat raging in War.
The vampire fertilized. Meditate on the 47.

Vagina with teeth (various northamerican legends, tibetan
mandalas). Samsara as devouring entity. Merchandizing.
Quarrel. Third party intruding. Cutting off heads, punishing,
cutting off legs. Legal constraint. Bribery? Jack of axe.

Extreme severity in legislation. The law, the model.
Making love through the barricades (Spandau Ballet).

The wars are for the intelligent to learn. In war 2004 DW is
madness and religious paranoia. Holy wars were announced by
darkplanet Nemesis-Lamia conjunct Puto, Varuna and of course
Quaoar. http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

Schizodarknesseeks religious centre. O5 gives spheremajikal
geometrical barycentre. Aikido. Keep one point. Concentration.
Sex is, after all, one point! Phallic Sun, ejaculaion. The
birth of a good and religious child. He shall travel.

World religions apartunited by Lady Babalamia.

9. Passion. Dissipation. This is not good for the Spirit.
As they nibble the fruit of my flesh, I feel no pain.

Evil mantras will not have their way. Angelic operation in
the deep hells. Devahans under attack. Lord Shiva firing
his Trisula. Major discreation. Learning the secret of
the House of Hell. Intelligence and commando. dr. John
Dee (agent 007 of H.R.H.) inspecting enochian domains.

This position is fertile ground for the student. Forget
Vitriol 726 and concentrate on the Sound of Victory.
Left body stirring (but how!). Secret operation.
Global manipulation. The Dark Lodges. Our Lady Babalon.

10. Go for that partner. Climb social steeps. Or let thy weight
roll downhill, instead of pushing it up. Thelema. Khaled Khan.
Hydra at the meridian. The zenith of the 28 constellation
zodiac.

11. Legal interference. A disturbance in the Force.
The waters of the pool stirred?

This does not seem a bad position at all.
There is lot to work and learn and students and masters gat
along fine. There's willingness to learn.

Bad karma is dispelled.

12. Love divine. Moksha. True Love. Especially favorable with
Venus in Cancer. Less favorable with Venus in Hydra, Sextans.
Chariklo in Crater should be taken into account. The Graal.
We all have loved you, acolyte (says Lamia-Kundalini-Maya).

Original illumination. One shuns followers and is himSelf
begging no advantageous gods.

This is what Herman Hesse wrote of.

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Prayers shall be addressed to Holy Mary > The Queen of Omniverse.

4>57 Yilin transl. Robert Matushan boyler(at)hidden-city.net

" Troubles are dissolved and worries are removed, with the help of
the Queen Mother, participating in happiness all arrive and I can
live in peace. "

Let this Han dynasty verse discreate apprehension ("verso" means
"I sip" (pour) in italian" and establish the rulership of the good
Queen of Omniverse om mahalaxmyai namah (Holy Mary for christians).

The siren voice of senses is thus hushed. Hydra launches kundalini
up (and down!) the spine, hardly purified, indeed. When kundalini
is not pure ( > alt.clearing.O5 ), then

When the siren cries, we launch p+sitive mantras, rather than just
tap our ears! ( And whle inner and outer blend, we can "discreate"
that voice as inner. Let it be noted that that's a long way from
evocation and intercourse with the inorganic. The Lamia event is
what we call sex with the vampire (to the ultimate detriment of
the vampire). Our blood is poison for the lips of the Beast!

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Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including.

Bad keys:

47 the vampire, one's life force gulped up by one's personal
devil or "voladero", the three Lamia or kundalinic watersnakes
sucking up the young acolyte's sexual energy, oral sex as path
to paradisisiac planets (not to moksha), swallowing sperm (as
in the vedas), kundalini as vampyre, Kali trumphant as killer,
jealousy, unwillingness to sumbit to good and (perhaps) obvious
authority, flaming with pride, unable to respect local/native
customs, lawless, troubled karma, intruding third person,
third man, go-beat-win, the devil itself, los volad-eros,
Kairo in flames, Set and his temporary victory over O5iris,
the staff of Set, Nibiru in triumph, warring Marduk, the
anrgy 4 archangelstars, lingam flying away on Maha Shivarathri.

Good keys:

Waking up with the house on fire, Lucifer as enlightment
bringer, the good salamander, Jupiter's Great Year and
good influence, Great Guardian Angel, love triumphs over
jealousy, TrueMind triumphs over False Ego, the 4 archangels,
the essence of heavenly love, illumination through love divine,
the Sphynx victorious, Saint Marc's winged lion with a sword
(his second gospel), PAX TIBI MARCE EVANGELISTA MEVS, Thelema,
Sai Baba, swallows in spring, Lesser Banishing Pentagram Ritual,
overcoming the distrust of the mob perhaps even obtaining fealty.

The rightous have no need to fear the Whip of God, since
it is a friendly Ripple of Change for them!

TrueMind triumphs over False Ego. This means the object is
Moon-friendly, but most likely to be Sun-unfriendly. The Sun
does not venture into Sextans or Hydra, but the Moon does and
Venus will "shortly" be there, too (after Orion).

The Moon (Isis) stands for True or Initiated Mind.
The Sun of course stands for the devil's install
or false ego. This is a truism in India as well
where Shiva is said to be higher than Krishna,
a lunar deity overriding the solar one, True Mind
emerging. It is worthless that the Moon is taken for
the soul's true significator! The Moon can be far
from the Sun, as it stomps from Sextans to Orion.

Venus and 2004 DW in Cancer make a loving pair!
This combination seems to be one of the luckiest
in astrology at large! Cancer stands for the constellation.

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A large object has been spotted in a disturbing constellation.
Hydra is Tiamat and has been rising it's head when important
occult operations were conducted, such as the writing of the
Book of Law. This puts us on guard against this object, which
will, amazingly disclose it's loving side like no Valentine
Centaur ever did!

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Since the young reader might not be acquainted with Thelema or
whatever shumerian monsters, we owe him an explanation. Better,
here's another example! Lovecraft often threathened with gods
and forces from old, the ancients, finding their way from sealed
past tombs into this world. The Necronomicon is said to be one
such dubious unlocking key for more devils to come in and play.
The Star Wars fans will know the Sith and Krath, Naga Sadow,
Freedon Nadd, Ulic Qel-Droma and of course Extar Kun. The Force
has no dark or bright side as Dao knows neither yin nor yang.
It is the use of the Force to determine it's color.
2007 with Venus approaching Hydra's Head through Hydra's
demon minister Sextans, with so much Satrun and Regulus
has already been marked as special. This time we have a
devilish object influenced by Saturn (Venus translates
Saturn's energy bumping into 2002 AW197). All luciferian
implications of Venus are activated as Saturn stands for
the king (Regulus) of Hell itself, in person, so to say.

= Visiting the Monsters =
2004 DW and Hydra - Tiamut

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An object larger than Quaoar has been discovered recently.
This article will require some familiarity with the True
Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,
(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on
it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a
centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the
centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation
use: http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar/quaoar.html Important
objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can
use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines
to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian.

Note that 2004 DW scratches Hydra's back visiting her monsters.
This is more like towards a homework for the students, since
we sometime work on the delineations twogether. 2004 DW in
Sextans, Crater and Corvus is like three plagues if we observe
the dark side of 2004 DW, and this object most certainly has it!

"Visiting the Monsters" can be said to happen roughly every 100
years or so. We are risking quite some accuracy at this point,
the orbital elements being still updating, but you've got the
idea.

When sitchinian Tiamut is taken for ex planet and her "monsters"
= ministers are sattelites (e.g. evil Wind), we launch our experimental
nibiric binary system on the basis of old chinese codes, see also
Nibiru under http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html ( Enuma Elish ).

Abouts:

28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html
Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39
Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html
Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno
All Objects on http://groups.google.com
Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html

Scourge/Whip of God or the Tail of the Devil ?

2004 DW Largest KBO

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

= 2004 DW a Bat out of Hell = http://puck.dhs.org

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The devil, personal or otherwise, has been dubbed "voladero",
using Carlos Castaneda's firsthand hellish experiences and
some of our own. This object, more than Quaoar, will resist
delineation, worse than in the remote case of Varuna, the
unfathomable object. For Varuna see http://groups.google.com

When we say man has two minds, we allude to the foreign install
averagely at the tender age of three being not our mind at all.
Compare with "Dark City" and "Matrix" the movies.

The position of this major transneptunian object in Hydra
is close to the Ascendant of the Book of Law, Kairo 1904.

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Let not the word "love" be associated with popular sexual
allusion only. 2004 DW has much thelemitic about it as
Love is the Law, but Love under a Strong Will (or, rather,
True Will).

Love is terrifying to everyone. It terrified people who met
"angels", like the One who wrestled with the "ally" "at
Peniel" (Face of God). (A form of the word "Peniel", in
fact determines the angel, as well as the wrestlinground).

This object's totems are the four archangels. Meaning the
four royal stars of Persia.

The main problem with simple interpretation of this
"object"-spirit is that it bears both Love Divine and
the most terrifying wrath of Satan in it's own lap!

With Chariklo and 2004 DW at the lap-bottom, Venus going
into a mad loop with Saturn Regulus and kissing 2002 AW197,
August 2007 seems to be the birthplace of Satan.

I was tempted to determine the birth time for the "ideal"
antiChrist, using this new object and perhaps I did the
work too well. Namely, Venus in it's lowest position and
retrograde, heading towards Hydra with a strong ifluence
from Saturn and Regulus alone "make me wonder". We have
copious material about "extrazodiacal" Venus on the site
and http://groups.google.com "Venus+extrazodiacal".

Some will justly conclude that the Devil himself paid us a
visit (as if he wasn't in our every cradle?). In 2004 DW
the absurd but deadly victory of the inorganic pest we call
the personal devil (voladero) clashes with the triumphing
True Mind.

Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and 2004 DW) in
Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and
Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation,
rather inclined towards loneliness).

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Abouts:

Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
28 Constellation Zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/nu
Valentine Centaur http://puck.dhs.org/centaurs /2004CJ39
Quaoar http://puck.dhs.org/quaoar /quaoar.html
Transneptunians http://puck.dhs.org/2003 /tno
All Objects on http://groups.google.com
Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck
Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html
Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html
Updates: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
Extrazodiacal Astrology http://puck.dhs.org/extra

The label "Aiwass" for the planetoid is provisory, and
as are this fairly accurate ephemeris by Jon Giorgini
of NASA JPL, to whom go all our thanks and esteem.
Please assume the object is still a puzzle as it's
orbital elements are being determined with progressive
precision. In the first days of the discovery, it was
thought a cubewano, then a plutino, and it's relative
magnitude is still estimated. As son as the object's
orbital elements are esteemed reliable, numerical
integration is possible for distant dates. Aldo Vitagliano
and his Solex software use the NASA model to calculate
dates otherwise not supplied by NASA HORIZONS.

Aleister Crowley 2004 DW

1875-Sep-20 00:00 288.9969990 8.7303227
1875-Oct-01 00:00 288.9629561 8.7020916
1875-Oct-12 00:00 288.9919660 8.6722306
1875-Oct-23 00:00 289.0843245 8.6425650
1875-Nov-03 00:00 289.2384987 8.6147722

The 1600 - 2100 ephemeris are on the site. The files are
comparatively large (over 1 Mb). Mail for compressiOM!

Largest discovery after Pluto! http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW
(C) 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

Updates on: http://puck.dhs.org/2004DW

Adenda
====== Pallas and Juno have been included. Juno is too small
to have any meaning in modern astrology, being dwarfed
by too many minor planets, but it retains a historical
... charm. Albeit small, Pallas is considerably up the
perimeter range. The giant transneptunians have been
dwarfing the main belters for quite some time now.

Pallas meets 2004 DW in Hydra. Pallas wherabouts in short.

= NEAT Pallas = http://puck.dhs.org

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April 1st 2004 Pallas and giant comet NEAT meet in Eridanus
constellation. Hopefully the river Po in Italy will not flood,
as Eridanus is that precise river.

Pallas leaves Cetus (where it was able to conjunct Moon in Cetus)
for Eridanus and NEAT, heading towards it's doom in Al Nitak or
CINGVLA ORIONUS. http://puck.dhs.org/nu Orion O5IRIS

Both Eridanus and Orion are operative constellations used in
astrology. We don't use just the 28 zodiacal, but all the 88
constellations, completing embracing enfolding inspiring and
overhelming our belowed coocoon astral energy body like an egg
projecting or being Omniverse itself, as the Eagle presses His
Intent unto us.

Those with Aquila ascending (roughly Chiron around the ascendant)
may have Juno in Scutum (see article) around the ascendant at this
time.

Pallas in CINGVLA ORIONIS will be delineated for the inner circle
of O5IRIS students.

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= Ascendental Warning =

It is often tricky to determine when an object is on the
ascendant, as we have clearly pointed at in the cases of
some astrologer's charts http://puck.dhs.org /alan.leo

While 2004 DW in Hydra is a normal ascendental position,
the neighboring example of Chariklo in Crater serves for
an example in cases when 2004 DW will visit that constellation.

When due East ( = the ascendant proper ) is in Virgo ( a
fairly large constellation ), Crater with Chariklo are
ascending, too. One may say his due eastern ascendant
is Virgo, with Chariklo rising in Crater. It seems the
only way to put it. Thus we treat several ascending
constellations in some cases, namely the true due
eastern constelllation ad the neighboring one.

In different times different constellations are due
eastern. Crater was and will be such a constellation
and it is interesting to note Aries can rise in due
east roughly in times when Crater does so. The two
cannot ascend in due east when it comes to our present
time. http://puck.dhs.org/nu for details!

*

The following verses have to do with 28zodiacal astrology.
In the case of Pallas meeting 2004 DW in Hydra, our object
is directly involved. In other cases it is either in some
sort of aspect like (large) opposition or it is not involved
at all. The following are just examples from a broader
survey on the 28zodiac http://puck.dhs.org/extra

Do astrologers use constelaltions like Ophiucus or Auriga?
They do! The stars are there! Also: the discoveries are there,
e.g. Quaoar in Ophiucus. As Quaoar is far from Sagittarius, so
is 2004 DW far from Leo.

Is there any difference? There is! If your Moon is in Sextans,
you are prone to discrete aloofness, lonely pursuit, and may
even be too shy to form a relation (or too ambitious to keep
it). Moon in sextans people simply work too much, think too
much and the yellow brick road to hell is paved with golden
benevolence. Too much of a good thing? Perhaps losing an edge
is not that bad for concentration. Monasteries may abound with
Moon in Sextans people. New Year 2004 nativities are bent towards
any occult pursuit and wil enjoy memorable fish dinners, as their
Moon is in Cetus.

Popular programs like astrolog.org by Walter Pullen can perform
fairly well in the area of 28zodiacal and extrazodiacal astrology.
The function is

$ astrolog -XF -Xi -Xr -Xm

You should obtain something like Juno in Scutum and that's
28zodiacal astrology proper (albeit the zodiac pertains to
the planets, only partially /so-to-say/ to the minor planets.

Et voila!

March hares 2004 have Juno in Scutum? Are they mad?

= Juno in Scutum = http://puck.dhs.org

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28zodiacal astrology includes Scutum constellation. Being
born with Aquila ascending this days means having Juno in
Scutum in the 12th or 1st house. Never use tropical calculus
to know which, one, it'll fail.

What is this position about? The evil majikian uses his
majik mirror and fogs timespace. Especially time. Time
lapses get less reliable here.

Marriage gets dull. There's agression ahead of an average
sullen day. Triangle relationships break up and one finds
oneself temporarely alone.

Allone eternal but constancy does not mean escaping the
tooth of time. The practice of time discreation. Intent
enables teleportation.

Marriage was determined from the start as if parameters
won't change. The very institution of marriage is not
only in crisis: it is unbearable: nothing there for the
neophyte.

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So if I have Chiron ascending, Juno is in the 12th house in
Scutum? Is that getting too exciting? What about some more?
Beware the serpent's tail, since it is about to hit!

= Pluto in Serpens Cauda = http://puck.dhs.org

(C) 2003 Klaudio Zic http://puck.dhs.org/ng.html

Let it be noted that, while Pluto is still in Ophiucus at the
time of the article, it'll move into Serpens Cauda towards 2006
and it'll be Jupiter rejoicing with Ixion, Quaoar and 2002 MS4
in Ophiucus at that time.

Thus Serpens Cauda is not a fictious invention of some 28zodiacal
astronomy, it is a real planetary position (while Pluto is still a
planet). While a bunch of astronomers (rare fellows) will agree on
a 28 constellation zodiac, we have found convenient to split Serpens
into it's two halves, thus we have Pluto in Serpens Caput (Alpha
Serpentis!) and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the mild version of the
evil star conjunction.

Search http://groups.google.com for delineations. See also data base
http://puck.dhs.org/extrazodiacal

People will be born with several planets in Ophiucus, which in fact
is not rare at all, Ophiucus being a large zodiacal constellation.
What _is_ rare is to have a planet in Scorpius. The narrow stripe of
zodiacal Scorpius with it's Antares star (and archangel) allows for
an extremely brief sojourn of any planet. The Sun may spend from 6
to 7 days in that constellation, making Scorpius nativities extremely
rare. People are of course made to believe they're born in this or that
"sign" by people who'll never know their own Sun's position. That is
only the dawning of the age of error, as we have people running around
with positions erroneous by two houses or two "signs", believing one
is a "Scorpio". Myself born Nov 28 have Sun conjunct Antares and am
qualified as true Scorpius. But how many of you can claim that position?

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