---

Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.

Sig mig er den slags lovligt???

Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?

Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.


/Robert

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"Robert Eriksen" <roe@adr.dk> wrote in message
news:3ef16335$0$97181$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
> Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>
> Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>
> Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?

Are you asking who originally wrote this song? If so.....it's a song by The
Smiths.


*Michelle*

> Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
> nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.
>
>
> /Robert
>

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Michelle wrote:
> "Robert Eriksen" <roe@adr.dk> wrote in message
> news:3ef16335$0$97181$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
>
>>Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>>
>>Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>>
>>Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?
>
>
> Are you asking who originally wrote this song? If so.....it's a song by The
> Smiths.

I know the original by The Smiths.
I was just wondering if t.A.t.U.s "interpretation" of the song was legal.
It seems like a crime against music what they have done.

/Robert

---

In an article of 19 Jun 2003 Robert Eriksen wrote:

> I know the original by The Smiths.
> I was just wondering if t.A.t.U.s "interpretation" of the song was legal.
> It seems like a crime against music what they have done.

Many, many covers seems like a crime against the original song. In the
last couple of years there have been much too many very awful covers.

--
Uffe Holst

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"Uffe Holst" <uffe@eremitage.dk> wrote in message
news:F2.A2.0Q2f9114oebQtkc.NR@eremitage.dk...
>
> In an article of 19 Jun 2003 Robert Eriksen wrote:
>
> > I know the original by The Smiths.
> > I was just wondering if t.A.t.U.s "interpretation" of the song was
legal.
> > It seems like a crime against music what they have done.
>
> Many, many covers seems like a crime against the original song. In the
> last couple of years there have been much too many very awful covers.

There's nothing wrong with doing a cover as long as you don't ruin the song,
yes. But one thing I really hate is when a new band releases a cover as
their first single and becomes known because of that. For example Orgy and
Six Pence None the Richer and there's others too. That's not right!

*Michelle*

---

Michelle wrote:

> But one thing I really hate is when a new band releases a cover as
> their first single and becomes known because of that.

The Rolling Stones did that. It was a very good version. Lots of British
Invasion bands did - (not The Beatles but they had tons of cover
versions on their repertoire). I don't see how it's wrong.

Lars

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"Lars Rindsig" <spam@bounce.bounce.bounce> wrote in message
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> Michelle wrote:
>
> > But one thing I really hate is when a new band releases a cover as
> > their first single and becomes known because of that.
>
> The Rolling Stones did that. It was a very good version. Lots of British
> Invasion bands did - (not The Beatles but they had tons of cover
> versions on their repertoire). I don't see how it's wrong.

I just think it's a bit unfair getting famous over a song you didn't even
write. Am I the only one? I think a cover should be a b-side not an A-side
and definitely not a first single plus video. :D

*Michelle*

---

Michelle wrote:

> I just think it's a bit unfair getting famous over a song you didn't even
> write.

I'm just not buying that. See, I appreciate artists doing something
original as much as the next guy (or, in your case, gal). In fact,
that's one of my main criterion for picking out stuff I want to pay good
money to listen to. However, I don't think whether this group or that
group wrote their own songs is the main factor --- it's whether or not
they're doing something really cool with the song (whoever wrote it).

Like, you can't say, oh I don't know, some random jazz musician's
(relative) fame and success is unfair. A lot of the material in jazz are
silly old standards; though there's a lot of original material too,
often people would "just" do variations on a theme (whether improvised
or charted out, that doesn't really matter) and still it can be insanely
interesting and compelling and, you know, it'll just suck you right in.

Same way with Jimi Hendrix' "All Along the Watch Tower." That's a Dylan
song. Hendrix didn't write it but he made it over completely and did
some really cool stuff with (and it's still a good song in its own
right). I really couldn't care less who wrote it.

> Am I the only one?

Yep.



Lars
Lars

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"Lars Rindsig" <spam@bounce.bounce.bounce> wrote in message
news:bctf42$175q$1@news.cybercity.dk...
> Michelle wrote:
>
> > I just think it's a bit unfair getting famous over a song you didn't
even
> > write.
>
> I'm just not buying that. See, I appreciate artists doing something
> original as much as the next guy (or, in your case, gal). In fact,
> that's one of my main criterion for picking out stuff I want to pay good
> money to listen to.

What bands do you like?

However, I don't think whether this group or that
> group wrote their own songs is the main factor --- it's whether or not
> they're doing something really cool with the song (whoever wrote it).

Yes, I agree. Somehow though it annoys me when someone releases a song
that's been done before, as their first single. It's quite alright to cover
a song, of course! If T.A.T.U. released How Soon is Now as their first
single and became known because of it, I would think first that it's cool
that T.A.T.U likes The Smiths but why couldn't they release a song they
wrote instead? But they didn't do that so that's good. :) They got famous by
an original song.

> Like, you can't say, oh I don't know, some random jazz musician's
> (relative) fame and success is unfair. A lot of the material in jazz are
> silly old standards; though there's a lot of original material too,
> often people would "just" do variations on a theme (whether improvised
> or charted out, that doesn't really matter) and still it can be insanely
> interesting and compelling and, you know, it'll just suck you right in.

Well ok. I'm not into Jazz. I can't quite give much more of an argument, at
the end of the day it's just my opinion. I just think what makes a band
think oh we wrote all of these songs here for our album but lets release the
cover we did of that New Order song first. It was a hit in the 80's we can
make it a hit again. If I was in a band I would want to release some of my
own work first and not someone else's. Wouldn't you think in the same way?
You would think they would be proud of the other songs you know? A band
loses points in my book for doing something like this, I can't help it! :)
Orgy annoyed me the most because I saw them on TV once say how they went
into a record store and picked up Blue Monday, having not heard it or
whatever, they thought it was a dumb song and decided to cover it just as a
joke. During this interview they made fun of New Order. New Order are cool
and thanks to them Orgy had a hit song (at least in America), I don't think
they had another successful hit.

> Same way with Jimi Hendrix' "All Along the Watch Tower." That's a Dylan
> song. Hendrix didn't write it but he made it over completely and did
> some really cool stuff with (and it's still a good song in its own
> right). I really couldn't care less who wrote it.

Was that the first song he released?

> > Am I the only one?
>
> Yep.
>
>

HEY hehe I guess Lars is the only person in the world, well that matters at
last! :)

*Michelle*

---

"Michelle" <supertanker1REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcvvd5$nlad6$1@ID-72111.news.dfncis.de...
>
> "Lars Rindsig" <spam@bounce.bounce.bounce> wrote in message
> news:bctf42$175q$1@news.cybercity.dk...
> > Michelle wrote:
> >
> > > I just think it's a bit unfair getting famous over a song you didn't
> even
> > > write.
> >
> > I'm just not buying that. See, I appreciate artists doing something
> > original as much as the next guy (or, in your case, gal). In fact,
> > that's one of my main criterion for picking out stuff I want to pay good
> > money to listen to.
>
> What bands do you like?
>
> However, I don't think whether this group or that
> > group wrote their own songs is the main factor --- it's whether or not
> > they're doing something really cool with the song (whoever wrote it).
>
> Yes, I agree. Somehow though it annoys me when someone releases a song
> that's been done before, as their first single. It's quite alright to
cover
> a song, of course! If T.A.T.U. released How Soon is Now as their first
> single and became known because of it, I would think first that it's cool
> that T.A.T.U likes The Smiths but why couldn't they release a song they
> wrote instead? But they didn't do that so that's good. :) They got famous
by
> an original song.
>
> > Like, you can't say, oh I don't know, some random jazz musician's
> > (relative) fame and success is unfair. A lot of the material in jazz are
> > silly old standards; though there's a lot of original material too,
> > often people would "just" do variations on a theme (whether improvised
> > or charted out, that doesn't really matter) and still it can be insanely
> > interesting and compelling and, you know, it'll just suck you right in.
>
> Well ok. I'm not into Jazz. I can't quite give much more of an argument,
at
> the end of the day it's just my opinion. I just think what makes a band
> think oh we wrote all of these songs here for our album but lets release
the
> cover we did of that New Order song first. It was a hit in the 80's we can
> make it a hit again. If I was in a band I would want to release some of my
> own work first and not someone else's. Wouldn't you think in the same way?
> You would think they would be proud of the other songs you know? A band
> loses points in my book for doing something like this, I can't help it! :)
> Orgy annoyed me the most because I saw them on TV once say how they went
> into a record store and picked up Blue Monday, having not heard it or
> whatever, they thought it was a dumb song and decided to cover it just as
a
> joke. During this interview they made fun of New Order. New Order are cool
> and thanks to them Orgy had a hit song (at least in America), I don't
think
> they had another successful hit.
>
> > Same way with Jimi Hendrix' "All Along the Watch Tower." That's a Dylan
> > song. Hendrix didn't write it but he made it over completely and did
> > some really cool stuff with (and it's still a good song in its own
> > right). I really couldn't care less who wrote it.
>
> Was that the first song he released?
>
> > > Am I the only one?
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> >
>
> HEY hehe I guess Lars is the only person in the world, well that matters
at
> last! :)

uh oh! :) someone kidnapped my "e" ---> "least" is what I meant to write at
the end. :)

*Michelle*

---

Michelle wrote:

> What bands do you like?

Oh, oh, LOTS. Lately, I've been into British Invation and soul (lots and
lots of covers as first singles in those genres, incidently). I also
like jazz and experimental rock, blues. In short, I like good music.
Some of my all-time favorite artists, though, would be .. Neil Young.
Beach Boys. Mike Watt/Minutemen/fIREHOSE. Warren Zevon (who's dying,
sadly). Johnny Cash. The Zombies. The Pogues. Syd Barrett-era Pink
Floyd. Pre 1985-R.E.M. Sidewinders/Sand Rubies/Rich Hopkins. Giant
Sand/Howe Gelb. Velvet Underground. Dylan. Springsteen. Roxy Music.
Elvis Costello. James Carr. Captain Beefheart. Helmet. Public Enemy.
Kraftwerk.

> I can't quite give much more of an argument, at
> the end of the day it's just my opinion.

Which, of course, is perfectly admirable. Incidently, I take music much,
much too seriously.

> Wouldn't you think in the same way?

Well.. kinda, sorta, maybe. I would prefer that my band (that I'm in for
the sake of argument - I completely and utterly suck at playing the
guitar) released an interesting, inventive version of a song some other
guy wrote, rather than a so-so song I wrote. (Obviously, if it's the
other way round, then I'm completely with you).

> Orgy annoyed me the most because I saw them on TV once say how they went
> into a record store and picked up Blue Monday, having not heard it or
> whatever, they thought it was a dumb song and decided to cover it just as a
> joke. During this interview they made fun of New Order. New Order are cool
> and thanks to them Orgy had a hit song (at least in America), I don't think
> they had another successful hit.

I'm afraid I can't really comment on that -- I'm not much into New Order
and I've never even heard of Orgy. But sure, if they're releasing a
cover version without adding anything just to cash in, then you're
right; you shouldn't do that.

> Was that the first song he released?

No. But it was one of his most famous.

Lars

---

Michelle skrev:


>> Same way with Jimi Hendrix' "All Along the Watch Tower." That's a
>> Dylan song. Hendrix didn't write it but he made it over completely and
>> did some really cool stuff with (and it's still a good song in its own
>> right). I really couldn't care less who wrote it.
>
> Was that the first song he released?

Nope. I believe it was "Hey Joe" (Which was a cover).

--
M.v.h. Peter. Email adresse er gyldig.
Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

---

Michelle skrev:

> I just think it's a bit unfair getting famous over a song you didn't
> even write.

Didn't Elvis do that?

Am I the only one?

Nope. But what about heavy sampling of a melody?

Apollo 440: "Ain't Talking About Dub"
Watergate: "Heart Of Asia"

being two older but relevant examples.

--
M.v.h. Peter. Email adresse er gyldig.
Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

---

> Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>
> Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>
> Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?
>
> Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
> nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.


Word: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?"
Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know much
about them.
Word: They are teenage Russian lesbians.
Morrissey: Well, aren't we all?

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"Jacob Herold Nielsen" <jacob@boomtown.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:bcrrmn$ljr$1@sunsite.dk...
>
> > Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
> >
> > Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
> >
> > Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?
> >
> > Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
> > nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.
>
>
> Word: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?"
> Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know much
> about them.
> Word: They are teenage Russian lesbians.
> Morrissey: Well, aren't we all?
>
>

fatter ikke en brik -- -øhh undskyld er dette ikke >>DK<<.kultur.musik ?
øøhh. get it ? det tror jeg nok du gør !

---

> > Word: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?"
> > Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know much
> > about them.
> > Word: They are teenage Russian lesbians.
> > Morrissey: Well, aren't we all?
> >
> >
>
> fatter ikke en brik -- -øhh undskyld er dette ikke >>DK<<.kultur.musik ?
> øøhh. get it ? det tror jeg nok du gør !

Kan du ikke lige forklare din pointe, for jeg tror den er gået tabt for os
begge.

Ovenstående er sakset fra magasinet Words interview med Morrissey fra The
Smiths som har lavet originalversionen af "How Soon Is Now?".

Nogen gang kan det betale sig at sætte sig ind i en tråd, før man kommentere
den...

---

"Jacob Herold Nielsen" <jacob@boomtown.net.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bcs4id$rle$1@sunsite.dk...
>
> > > Word: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?"
> > > Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know
much
> > > about them.
> > > Word: They are teenage Russian lesbians.
> > > Morrissey: Well, aren't we all?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > fatter ikke en brik -- -øhh undskyld er dette ikke >>DK<<.kultur.musik ?
> > øøhh. get it ? det tror jeg nok du gør !
>
> Kan du ikke lige forklare din pointe, for jeg tror den er gået tabt for os
> begge.
>
> Ovenstående er sakset fra magasinet Words interview med Morrissey fra The
> Smiths som har lavet originalversionen af "How Soon Is Now?".
>
> Nogen gang kan det betale sig at sætte sig ind i en tråd, før man
kommentere
> den...


Næh... nogen gange kan det betale sig at huske kildeangivelse...

Det er f*ndme svært at vide at det du skrev var fra magasinet "Word", så jeg
forstår ganske udemærket ss's undren...


Mvh

John

---

> Næh... nogen gange kan det betale sig at huske kildeangivelse...

Der står skam hvem det er fra.

> Det er f*ndme svært at vide at det du skrev var fra magasinet "Word", så
jeg
> forstår ganske udemærket ss's undren...

Ja. Hvis man ikke kender magasinet i forvejen. Det samme kan siges om både
Morrissey, hans forbindelse til Smiths og så meget andet på nettet. Det
skader dog ikke at undersøge noget selv, inden man bralre op.

Der står hvad det handler om (tAtu og sangen), og hvem der er spørgeren, og
hvem der bliver adspurgt. Derudover kan man spørge til hvad det er, og
ellers forsøge at blive gode venner med Google.

Desuden var det den uintelligente måde at komme med et indlæg på jeg
stejlede over.

---

"Jacob Herold Nielsen" <jacob@boomtown.net.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bcsb1u$ebp$1@sunsite.dk...
> > Næh... nogen gange kan det betale sig at huske kildeangivelse...
>
> Der står skam hvem det er fra.
>
> > Det er f*ndme svært at vide at det du skrev var fra magasinet "Word", så
> jeg
> > forstår ganske udemærket ss's undren...
>
> Ja. Hvis man ikke kender magasinet i forvejen. Det samme kan siges om både
> Morrissey, hans forbindelse til Smiths og så meget andet på nettet. Det
> skader dog ikke at undersøge noget selv, inden man bralre op.

Hvis du nu havde været mere tydlig i din "udtalelse" havde du været fri for
at forklare og parlementere nu.

> Der står hvad det handler om (tAtu og sangen), og hvem der er spørgeren,
og
> hvem der bliver adspurgt. Derudover kan man spørge til hvad det er, og
> ellers forsøge at blive gode venner med Google.

Så pga, du er doven og ikke gider at forklare sammenhænget til de mange
udvidene, vil du hellere, at alle skal søge på google for at finde ud af
hvad du snakker om. Men mindre du er Jes Dorph-Petersen og vi kan vinde
noget, synes jeg det er egoistisk

> Desuden var det den uintelligente måde at komme med et indlæg på jeg
> stejlede over.

Som man råber i skoven får man svar

/Rune

---

> Så pga, du er doven og ikke gider at forklare sammenhænget til de mange
> udvidene, vil du hellere, at alle skal søge på google for at finde ud af
> hvad du snakker om. Men mindre du er Jes Dorph-Petersen og vi kan vinde
> noget, synes jeg det er egoistisk

Nej, det var nu mere fordi at jeg mente at sammenhængen var tydelig for godt
og vel alle. At den så ikke er det er måske en fejlvurdering fra min side.
Ikke desto mindre er det ikke værre end at I kan spørge.

> > Desuden var det den uintelligente måde at komme med et indlæg på jeg
> > stejlede over.
>
> Som man råber i skoven får man svar

Præcis. Er der noget i tvivl om kan du bare spørge. Er du eller nogen andre
for den sags skyld i tvivl om så spørg. Det her er Usenet.

At sige :

"fatter ikke en brik -- -øhh undskyld er dette ikke >>DK<<.kultur.musik ?
øøhh. get it ? det tror jeg nok du gør !"

er ihvertfald ikke konstruktivt. "Hvad mener du?" eller "Hvor er det fra?"
havde uden tvivl høstet langt bedre feedback.

---

In article <3ef1c063$0$24619$edfadb0f@dread14.news.tele.dk>, "Rune
Jensen" <:fjern:blaze@esenet.dk> says...
> Så pga, du er doven og ikke gider at forklare sammenhænget til de mange
> udvidene, vil du hellere, at alle skal søge på google for at finde ud af
> hvad du snakker om. Men mindre du er Jes Dorph-Petersen og vi kan vinde
> noget, synes jeg det er egoistisk
>

Du vinder ikke noget, hvis du får hjælp af google. Bare spørg Jes Dorph.

--
/Lars
http://www.bernau.dk

---

> > Det er f*ndme svært at vide at det du skrev var fra magasinet "Word", så
> jeg
> > forstår ganske udemærket ss's undren...
>
> Ja. Hvis man ikke kender magasinet i forvejen.

Netop. Jeg kender det heller ikke, og selv om jeg ikke var i tvivl om at
"Word" var en eller anden interviewer, så er det nu dejligt at vide hvad
"Word" er for en størrelse. Word up.

> Det samme kan siges om både
> Morrissey, hans forbindelse til Smiths og så meget andet på nettet.

Rigtigt, men chancen for at man har hørt om Morrissey m.m. er større end at
man har hørt om et eller andet blad man kun kan få i større stationskiosker
(eller hvor man nu kan købe det).

> Det skader dog ikke at undersøge noget selv, inden man bralre op.

Det må være dit job som viderefortæller også at formidle kendskab om kilden,
specielt hvis det er en publikation som ikke alle kan forventes at kende
til.

> Der står hvad det handler om (tAtu og sangen), og hvem der er spørgeren,
og
> hvem der bliver adspurgt. Derudover kan man spørge til hvad det er, og
> ellers forsøge at blive gode venner med Google.

Jeg ville hade at søge efter ordet (!) "Word" på Google, jeg skal jo også på
arbejde i morgen.

> Desuden var det den uintelligente måde at komme med et indlæg på jeg
> stejlede over.

Det er jo så noget andet

---

"Jacob Herold Nielsen" <jacob@boomtown.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:bcs4id$rle$1@sunsite.dk...
>
> > > Word: Did you hear t.A.T.u.'s version of "How Soon Is Now?"
> > > Morrissey: Yes, it was magnificent. Absolutely. Again, I don't know
much
> > > about them.
> > > Word: They are teenage Russian lesbians.
> > > Morrissey: Well, aren't we all?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > fatter ikke en brik -- -øhh undskyld er dette ikke >>DK<<.kultur.musik ?
> > øøhh. get it ? det tror jeg nok du gør !
>
> Kan du ikke lige forklare din pointe, for jeg tror den er gået tabt for os
> begge.
>
> Ovenstående er sakset fra magasinet Words interview med Morrissey fra The
> Smiths som har lavet originalversionen af "How Soon Is Now?".
>
> Nogen gang kan det betale sig at sætte sig ind i en tråd, før man
kommentere
> den...

Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many Danish
bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can be silent as
a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I thought everyone in
Denmark knew English anyways?

*Michelle*

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"Michelle" <supertanker1REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many Danish
> bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can be silent
as
> a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I thought everyone in
> Denmark knew English anyways?

No, its not a problem. Not at all.

By the way: Its not the english language issue that are being discussed, so
dont worry

--
Med Venlig Hilsen

Morten Holberg Nielsen
-we're rotten fruit
we're damaged goods
what the hell
we got nothing to lose

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"Morten Holberg Nielsen" <holberg19@SLET DETTEofir.dk> wrote in message
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>
> "Michelle" <supertanker1REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bcsrd1$ml5il$1@ID-72111.news.dfncis.de...
>
> > Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many Danish
> > bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can be
silent
> as
> > a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I thought everyone
in
> > Denmark knew English anyways?
>
> No, its not a problem. Not at all.
>
> By the way: Its not the english language issue that are being discussed,
so
> dont worry

Okay. Good! :)

*Michelle*

---

> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many Danish
> bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can be silent
as
> a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I thought everyone in
> Denmark knew English anyways?
>
> *Michelle*
>
Macht nichts Michelle, NG Cops ist in alle newsgroups.
Jaa ein par von uns können auch deutsch
Gruß nach Berlin.

Per

---

"Per Moreau" <gndsplitting@OHNOhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CbWdnbvFbr4gY2yjRTvU2Q@giganews.com...
> > Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many Danish
> > bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can be
silent
> as
> > a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I thought everyone
in
> > Denmark knew English anyways?
> >
> > *Michelle*
> >
> Macht nichts Michelle, NG Cops ist in alle newsgroups.

Verdammt! hehe

> Jaa ein par von uns können auch deutsch

Toll! Woher weißt du, dass ich auch auf Deutsch sprechen kann?

> Gruß nach Berlin.

Hmm. Ich komme nicht aus Berlin aber aus Texas!!

*Michelle*

---

"Michelle" <supertanker1REMOVE@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:bctf4a$n9um6$1@ID-72111.news.dfncis.de...

> > Gruß nach Berlin.
>
> Hmm. Ich komme nicht aus Berlin aber aus Texas!!


))

---

Michelle skrev:

> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
> Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can
> be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I
> thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?

Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.

Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.

--
M.v.h. Peter. Email adresse er gyldig.
Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

---

Peter G wrote:
> Michelle skrev:
>
>
>>Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
>>Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can
>>be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I
>>thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?
>
>
> Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.
>
> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
> discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.
>

"DK".

/David

---

David Rasmussen wrote:
> Peter G wrote:
>> Michelle skrev:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
>>> Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I
>>> can be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry.
>>> Anyways I thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?
>>
>>
>> Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.
>>
>> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
>> discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.
>>
>
> "DK".

Sorry, but no, Dead Kennedys and Love Shop have nothing in common.

--
Jacob

If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you friends
are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to pretend you
were swimming.

---

Jacob Skaaning wrote:
> David Rasmussen wrote:
>> Peter G wrote:
>>> Michelle skrev:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
>>>> Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I
>>>> can be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry.
>>>> Anyways I thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.
>>>
>>> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just
>>> recently discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>
>> "DK".
>
> Sorry, but no, Dead Kennedys and Love Shop have nothing in common.

And if I used my head, I would have found out that DK in fact was an album
they made, and *not* a harsh remark to write in Danish. I'll be off, then.
Ta!

--
Jacob

If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you friends
are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to pretend you
were swimming.

---

"Jacob Skaaning" <jskaaning@email.dk> wrote in message
news:bcvo9v$1hl$1@dknews.tiscali.dk...
> Jacob Skaaning wrote:
> > David Rasmussen wrote:
> >> Peter G wrote:
> >>> Michelle skrev:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
> >>>> Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I
> >>>> can be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry.
> >>>> Anyways I thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.
> >>>
> >>> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just
> >>> recently discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations
> >>> appreciated.
> >>>
> >>
> >> "DK".
> >
> > Sorry, but no, Dead Kennedys and Love Shop have nothing in common.
>
> And if I used my head, I would have found out that DK in fact was an album
> they made, and *not* a harsh remark to write in Danish. I'll be off, then.
> Ta!

hehe

> --
> Jacob
>
> If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you friends
> are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to pretend you
> were swimming.

HAHA where is that from? I see a mistake though, youR friends :)

*Michelle*

---

Michelle wrote:
> "Jacob Skaaning" <jskaaning@email.dk> wrote in message
> news:bcvo9v$1hl$1@dknews.tiscali.dk...
>> If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you
>> friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to
>> pretend you were swimming.
>
> HAHA where is that from? I see a mistake though, youR friends :)
>
> *Michelle*

Do a Google search for Jack Handy, and start laughing :)
And the missing letter is a fault in my random signature program, pretty
annoying.

--
Jacob

It's true that every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its wings. But
what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap,
and Angel gets set on fire.

---

"Jacob Skaaning" <jskaaning@email.dk> wrote in message
news:bd45g0$qm4$1@dknews.tiscali.dk...
> Michelle wrote:
> > "Jacob Skaaning" <jskaaning@email.dk> wrote in message
> > news:bcvo9v$1hl$1@dknews.tiscali.dk...
> >> If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you
> >> friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to
> >> pretend you were swimming.
> >
> > HAHA where is that from? I see a mistake though, youR friends :)
> >
> > *Michelle*
>
> Do a Google search for Jack Handy, and start laughing :)

Oh I know him! How do you? I didn't think you got 'Saturday Night Live' in
Denmark.

> And the missing letter is a fault in my random signature program, pretty
> annoying.

Does it add an extra letter sometimes too? Like below it wrote "and" Angel.
Strange. :)

*Michelle*

> --
> Jacob
>
> It's true that every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its wings. But
> what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap,
> and Angel gets set on fire.

---

"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bcuqom.3vvmacp.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...
> Michelle skrev:
>
> > Sorry. Is it a problem that I wrote in English? :( I like so many
> > Danish bands and this is the only place that discusses them. But I can
> > be silent as a monk, well I can't guarantee it. :) sorry. Anyways I
> > thought everyone in Denmark knew English anyways?
>
> Most of us. Don't worry (be happy) about it.
>
> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
> discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.

Hmm a hard question. :) I would suggest to get "Go" next only because Jens
from LS told me that most people consider this album their best so far. My
two favorites though are "Billeder Af Verden" and " Det Løse Liv" But
I'm a unique LS fan.

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:


>> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
>> discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.
>
> Hmm a hard question. :) I would suggest to get "Go" next only because
> Jens from LS told me that most people consider this album their best
> so far. My two favorites though are "Billeder Af Verden" and " Det
> Løse Liv" But I'm a unique LS fan.

"Det Løse Liv" Should be very non-guitar poppy as far as I have gathered.
Think I'll try "Go" first. I like Hilmers pop-oriented guitarplaying.

Can anybody tell me story about the release "90" vs. "90/91"? What's this
for?

--
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Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
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---

"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bd1nmc.3vs3gk3.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...
> Michelle skrev:
>
>
> >> Hey, in what order should I try getting into Love Shop? Just recently
> >> discoverede "Anti" and like what I hear. Recommendations appreciated.
> >
> > Hmm a hard question. :) I would suggest to get "Go" next only because
> > Jens from LS told me that most people consider this album their best
> > so far. My two favorites though are "Billeder Af Verden" and " Det
> > Løse Liv" But I'm a unique LS fan.
>
> "Det Løse Liv" Should be very non-guitar poppy as far as I have gathered.
> Think I'll try "Go" first. I like Hilmers pop-oriented guitarplaying.

What song do you like the best that is guitar-poppy?

> Can anybody tell me story about the release "90" vs. "90/91"? What's this
> for?

Love Shop remixede albummet op til genudsendelsen, og i den forbindelse
besluttede man at ændre rækkefølgen af sangene. Især vil man bemærke at
versionen af I den nye by fra 1990-91 er blevet hele 24 sekunder længere og
har fået et andet trommespor. På den seneste genudsendelse af albummet er
den oprindelige rækkefølge genindført, og titlen er igen 1990.

I hope that answers your question? :)

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:

>> "Det Løse Liv" Should be very non-guitar poppy as far as I have
>> gathered. Think I'll try "Go" first. I like Hilmers pop-oriented
>> guitarplaying.
>
> What song do you like the best that is guitar-poppy?

Ahemm, what I meant is that I generally tend to enjoy poppy songs with a
guitar more than poppy songs without. You could say it's an "organic"
thing. I meant that Hilmer plays tasteful in the confines of the songs. It
just seems to fit like hand in a glove.

I quite like all the songs on "Anti", but when you get the sounds of the
weaving guitar on "Alle Har En Drøm At Befri", the riffing on "Yugo Star",
the small add-ons on "På Kontorene", "Det Tog Mig Et År", the tasteful
guitar-harmonica-interplay on the wonderful "Du Er Kommet For At Go" it
just adds that extra flavour in the signals up my spine.
But in general the whole album just clicks with something in me. I think
I've found a new favourite band. But I guess I should have known that,
since I love Naïve's "Absolution Music" :D


>> Can anybody tell me story about the release "90" vs. "90/91"? What's
>> this for?
>
> Love Shop remixede albummet op til genudsendelsen, og i den
> forbindelse besluttede man at ændre rækkefølgen af sangene. Især vil
> man bemærke at versionen af I den nye by fra 1990-91 er blevet hele 24
> sekunder længere og har fået et andet trommespor. På den seneste
> genudsendelse af albummet er den oprindelige rækkefølge genindført, og
> titlen er igen 1990.
>
> I hope that answers your question? :)

Thanks and more or less. I wonder if all their albums still are in print
and easily accesible (here in Denmark).

--
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Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

---

"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bd42mb.3vvv4i7.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...
> Ahemm, what I meant is that I generally tend to enjoy poppy songs with a
> guitar more than poppy songs without. You could say it's an "organic"
> thing. I meant that Hilmer plays tasteful in the confines of the songs. It
> just seems to fit like hand in a glove.

I'll listen carefully next time I listen to some Love Shop cd's to pin point
the more guitar oriented poppy songs.

> I quite like all the songs on "Anti", but when you get the sounds of the
> weaving guitar on "Alle Har En Drøm At Befri", the riffing on "Yugo Star",
> the small add-ons on "På Kontorene", "Det Tog Mig Et År", the tasteful
> guitar-harmonica-interplay on the wonderful "Du Er Kommet For At Go" it
> just adds that extra flavour in the signals up my spine.
> But in general the whole album just clicks with something in me. I think
> I've found a new favourite band.

I think all of their songs have this feel so you should like all of
their albums. The one, in my opinion, as far as "sound" that is most similar
to Anti would be their new one called National. So you might want to check
that one out next.

But I guess I should have known that,
> since I love Naïve's "Absolution Music" :D

The Danish band called Naive? I don't remember them having a song by that
name or any of their songs having a love shop'py feel. :) But I'm not an
expert when it comes to that band. I just heard one album. Can you explain
what you mean by that? What's the connection between LS and Naive?

I wonder if all their albums still are in print
> and easily accesible (here in Denmark).

I have no idea. I'm surprised that no one else in this newsgroup has replied
to you though. But if one were I would guess that it's the 1990 one just
because it was the one album I had a hard time getting sent over to me. But
again I have no clue.

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:

> I think all of their songs have this feel so you should like all of
> their albums. The one, in my opinion, as far as "sound" that is most
> similar to Anti would be their new one called National. So you might
> want to check that one out next.

Fogfogfog. Now I have another batch of cd's I desire. No fair.

> The Danish band called Naive? I don't remember them having a song by
> that name or any of their songs having a love shop'py feel. :) But I'm
> not an expert when it comes to that band. I just heard one album. Can
> you explain what you mean by that? What's the connection between LS
> and Naive?

Yup, the danish band. "Absolution Music" (1995) is an album by them and
Hilmer was a prominent member (guitar, keys, bass, producer) of that group
alongside Love Shop. I believe Naive has disbanded since then.
Wonderful album.

> I have no idea. I'm surprised that no one else in this newsgroup has
> replied to you though. But if one were I would guess that it's the
> 1990 one just because it was the one album I had a hard time getting
> sent over to me. But again I have no clue.

Well, after seeing 1990 and other of their albums for mid- (and lower)
prices at the local shops I gather they aren't that hard to come by after
all. Maybe I'll do a bit of blind shopping ;)

--
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Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

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"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bdqetl.3vvrrfb.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...
> Michelle skrev:
>
> > I think all of their songs have this feel so you should like all of
> > their albums. The one, in my opinion, as far as "sound" that is most
> > similar to Anti would be their new one called National. So you might
> > want to check that one out next.
>
> Fogfogfog. Now I have another batch of cd's I desire. No fair.

hehe well it's worth it in the end. :) I hope you think so too.

> > The Danish band called Naive? I don't remember them having a song by
> > that name or any of their songs having a love shop'py feel. :) But I'm
> > not an expert when it comes to that band. I just heard one album. Can
> > you explain what you mean by that? What's the connection between LS
> > and Naive?
>
> Yup, the danish band. "Absolution Music" (1995) is an album by them and
> Hilmer was a prominent member (guitar, keys, bass, producer) of that group
> alongside Love Shop. I believe Naive has disbanded since then.
> Wonderful album.

Cool. I didn't know that. Is there any way you could send me a song from
this album so I can hear the similarities myself? :)

> > I have no idea. I'm surprised that no one else in this newsgroup has
> > replied to you though. But if one were I would guess that it's the
> > 1990 one just because it was the one album I had a hard time getting
> > sent over to me. But again I have no clue.
>
> Well, after seeing 1990 and other of their albums for mid- (and lower)
> prices at the local shops I gather they aren't that hard to come by after
> all. Maybe I'll do a bit of blind shopping ;)

Great! I wish our used cd stores had lots of Danish albums, I'd have fun!!
I'll be the girl who goes cd CrAzY when I go to Denmark just like I did when
I went to Germany last summer. I think I spent $200 on cd's and I have never
done that in my life before. :) Then I had a slight problem when packing my
suitcase hehe. So did you buy them all by now? How much were they in
American dollars?

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:

>> Fogfogfog. Now I have another batch of cd's I desire. No fair.
>
> hehe well it's worth it in the end. :) I hope you think so too.

Mostly so. Haven't heard them all yet. When it comes to discovering new
music I have the attention span of a butterfly on cocaine because of
outside influences and new discoveries.
Loved National and Go! at first listen. The rest needs to be more intensely
studied.

> Cool. I didn't know that. Is there any way you could send me a song
> from this album so I can hear the similarities myself? :)

I'll send you an email.

> Great! I wish our used cd stores had lots of Danish albums, I'd have
> fun!! I'll be the girl who goes cd CrAzY when I go to Denmark just
> like I did when I went to Germany last summer. I think I spent $200 on
> cd's and I have never done that in my life before. :) Then I had a
> slight problem when packing my suitcase hehe.

I know the experience. Though I tend just to throw out the excess clothing


> So did you buy them all by now?

Yes.

> How much were they in American dollars?

Around 550-600 kr IIRC.

I'm on my way out of the door, haven't got the exchange rate handy, so I'll
let you do the math.

--
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Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
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"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bhge01.3vvhpan.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...

> > Cool. I didn't know that. Is there any way you could send me a song
> > from this album so I can hear the similarities myself? :)
>
> I'll send you an email.

I replied to your e-mail but you never replied back, did you get it?

> > Great! I wish our used cd stores had lots of Danish albums, I'd have
> > fun!! I'll be the girl who goes cd CrAzY when I go to Denmark just
> > like I did when I went to Germany last summer. I think I spent $200 on
> > cd's and I have never done that in my life before. :) Then I had a
> > slight problem when packing my suitcase hehe.
>
> I know the experience. Though I tend just to throw out the excess clothing
>

hehe well I did have to throw out some things actually to make room for my
cd's. :)

> > How much were they in American dollars?
>
> Around 550-600 kr IIRC.

That can't be right. Are you missing a decimal in there? This is the site I
used to convert it. http://www.xe.com/ucc/

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:

>> I'll send you an email.
>
> I replied to your e-mail but you never replied back, did you get it?

No I didn't, which is weird.
Try sending it to Petergam(at)mail(dot)tele(dot)dk instead.

>>> How much were they in American dollars?
>>
>> Around 550-600 kr IIRC.
>
> That can't be right. Are you missing a decimal in there? This is the
> site I used to convert it. http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Around $82-87 for seven albums. Seems pretty okay to me.

--
M.v.h. Peter. Email adresse er gyldig.
Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
http://www.usenet.dk/oss/dk.kultur.musik
Læs den venligst før du spørger i gruppen første gang.

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"Peter G" <PeterG@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:bhnmd7.3vvojd3.1@PetersmaerkeligeFQDN.invalid...
> Michelle skrev:
>
> >> I'll send you an email.
> >
> > I replied to your e-mail but you never replied back, did you get it?
>
> No I didn't, which is weird.
> Try sending it to Petergam(at)mail(dot)tele(dot)dk instead.

Okay I will send you an e-mail now!

> >>> How much were they in American dollars?
> >>
> >> Around 550-600 kr IIRC.
> >
> > That can't be right. Are you missing a decimal in there? This is the
> > site I used to convert it. http://www.xe.com/ucc/
>
> Around $82-87 for seven albums. Seems pretty okay to me.

Sorry! I was asking more about how much they each cost, that's why I saw
that price and thought something was wrong. :) But that's a pretty normal
price then. :)

*Michelle*

---

Michelle skrev:

>> Around $82-87 for seven albums. Seems pretty okay to me.
>
> Sorry! I was asking more about how much they each cost, that's why I saw
> that price and thought something was wrong. :) But that's a pretty normal
> price then. :)

I bought National and Anti at fullprice, 150 kr. each. (I seem to recall I
later noticed "Anti" at 100 kr. somewhere else.)
Three others ("Go!", "Danmark", "Det Løse Live") cost 70 kr. each and the
last two 40 kr.
I think.

--
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Gruppen har en OSS (Ofte Spurgte Spørgsmål).
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> Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>
> Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>
> Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?

Det er lovligt hvis de har fået lov af dem, der ejer det originale nummer.


ML-78

---

Jeg synes da ikke man kan klandre dem der fornyer nummeret. De får jo ikke
lov til at gøre uden oprethavernes tilladelse.

Så det var jo egentlig dem i sku se jer sure på. De fleste gør det jo for at
tjene på det. Samtidig med at den bliver fornyet, så skabes der jo også
interesse om dem som har lavet den originalt.

Og det giver jo kroner/dollars i kassen.

--
Sune Nissen (Aragorn)
-
http://david-beckham.dk - Alt om Beckam og lidt til...

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"Robert Eriksen" <roe@adr.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3ef16335$0$97181$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
> Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>
> Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>
> Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?
>
> Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
> nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.
>
>
> /Robert
>

Lovligt er det hvis de har betalt en hvis stavl penge til ophavsret holderen
for brug af nummeret.
Prøv f.eks at tænde for flimmerkassen næste gang at TV3 viser
Heksene Fra Warren Manor, hvilken titel melodi banker ud af
højtaleren ? Endu en opgraderet version af The Smith´s gamle klassiker
How Soon s Now.

Mvh
Per M.

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Per Moreau wrote:
> "Robert Eriksen" <roe@adr.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:3ef16335$0$97181$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...
>
>>Har lige hørt ovenstående i radioen.
>>
>>Sig mig er den slags lovligt???
>>
>>Eller satsede de bare på at ingen kender originalen?
>>
>>Det er nok uden tvivl det dårligste cover af noget nummer...
>>nogensinde... i al musiks historie... i hele universet... overhovedet.
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>>/Robert
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>
>
> Lovligt er det hvis de har betalt en hvis stavl penge til ophavsret holderen
> for brug af nummeret.

Hvorvidt det var lovligt var nu mere et (og jeg forsøger mig med et
fremmedord) retorisk spørgsmål.

Jeg tænkte nu mere på at resultatet IMHO burde sættes ud over noget så
simpelt som loven om ophavsret, og istedet have egen paragraf direkte i
straffeloven.

/Robert

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> Jeg tænkte nu mere på at resultatet IMHO burde sættes ud over noget så >
simpelt som loven om ophavsret, og istedet have egen paragraf direkte i
> straffeloven.
>

Jeg har også flere gange overvejet om afspilninger af subjekt, kunne tænkes
at stride imod Geneve-konvektionen?

MvH Mikkel